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Re: All you need is URL

From: David Wood <david.wood@ephox.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 10:46:17 +1000
Message-ID: <CABdBTrYWdgEgyiHtjx-2yg4WnW-G9BiXJ7WAufsSL4TbDHW4Mw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Romain <rdeltour@gmail.com>
Cc: W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Let the trolling begin :)

Regards,
Dave

On 15 August 2017 at 08:50, Romain <rdeltour@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just a quick clarification on the terms URL, URI, IRI, URN, etc.
>
> Yesterday's call contains the resolution:
> > Use URL-s and use IRI/URI when it becomes strictly important
>
>
> And in previous calls there were statements like:
> > a URN is not a URL, but it is a URI
>
> I disagree:
>
> If –as we agreed on yesterday's call– we refer to the URL Standard
> (published by the WhatWG), then we no longer need to ever use "URI" or
> "IRI" (*), since this standard obsoletes both terms (defined respectively
> in RFC3986 and RFC3987) in favor of "URL".
>
> (*) except perhaps in the one non-normative note that would accompany the
> reference to the URL standard
>
> As for the term "URN", it is rather loosely defined in RFC3986 as:
>
> > The term "Uniform Resource Name" (URN) has been used historically to
> refer to both URIs under the "urn" scheme [RFC2141], which are required to
> remain globally unique and persistent even when the resource ceases to
> exist or becomes unavailable, and to any other URI with the properties of a
> name.
>
> In any case, a URN like "urn:isbn:9781449329297") **is** a URL.
>
> Finally, note that URL is defined as a "universal identifier". A URL
> doesn't necessarily represents a fetchable resource.
>
> My 2 standards-nerd cents :-)
> Romain.
>
> [URL] https://url.spec.whatwg.org
> [RFC3986] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986
> [RFC3987] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3987
> [RFC2141] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2141
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