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Re: Offer users choice over the advertising network they use as a path forward.

From: Lou Mastria <lou@aboutads.info>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:31:53 -0500
Message-ID: <-6677651900466795286@unknownmsgid>
To: stosss <stosss@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Swire <peter@peterswire.net>, Mike Zaneis <mike@iab.net>, Fred Andrews <fredandw@live.com>, "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>, PUA CG <public-pua@w3.org>
Peter, Thomas:
This type of ad hominem response does not bode well if we are to be
productive for the next 48 hours.

The issues raised by mike are substantive. They occurred to me (and
IMHO likely to others). Thomas' response was clarifying. This latest
email did not advance the discourse.

Lou

Best,

Lou Mastria
DAA

On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:07 AM, stosss <stosss@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Peter Swire <peter@peterswire.net> wrote:
>> I would be glad for clarification from W3C staff, but my understanding is
>> that there is not "sponsorship" of this document by W3C.
>>
>> The individuals who volunteered for that community group can write documents
>> that are posted to that community group.
>>
>> I look forward to working with the participants in our own Tracking
>> Protection Working Group when lunch begins at 11:30 Monday, and our session
>> begins at 12:15.
>>
>> And, happily, getting around Cambridge this evening has been
>> straightforward.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Professor Peter P. Swire
>> C. William O'Neill Professor of Law
>>    Ohio State University
>> 240.994.4142
>> www.peterswire.net
>>
>> From: Mike Zaneis <mike@iab.net>
>> Date: Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:44 PM
>> To: Fred Andrews <fredandw@live.com>
>> Cc: "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)"
>> <public-tracking@w3.org>, PUA CG <public-pua@w3.org>
>> Subject: Re: Offer users choice over the advertising network they use as a
>> path forward.
>> Resent-From: <public-tracking@w3.org>
>> Resent-Date: Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:45 PM
>>
>> This might be the most offensive document I have ever seen sponsored by an
>> official standard setting body. I hope that the W3C has a better
>> understanding of how the Internet is architected, anti-trust and copyright
>> laws, and concepts of Internet freedom.  Let's not begin our face to face
>> meeting by considering such nonsense.
>>
>> Mike Zaneis
>> SVP & General Counsel, IAB
>> (202) 253-1466
>>
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2013, at 9:00 PM, "Fred Andrews" <fredandw@live.com> wrote:
>>
>> The PUA CG has a draft proposal for advancing user privacy and unlocking the
>> frustrated DNT 'negotiating'.  It is proposed that user choice over the
>> advertising network should be improved.  With this small change in the
>> dynamics, it would no longer be necessary to bend to stake holders that
>> threaten to walk out because the market would open up to other networks that
>> cater for users concern about their privacy.  See:
>> http://www.w3.org/community/pua/wiki/Choice_of_Advertising_Network
>>
>> I believe there are many other benefits that governments and their voters
>> would be interested in so please give this some consideration and pass the
>> word around in discussions.
>>
>> cheers
>> Fred
>
> Of course lawyers would complain about something that levels the field
> and removes some of the power of the big companies. I hope whoever is
> heading up this project will not let the lawyers take control and
> screw this up. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves for speaking
> out so critical and negative of something so right.
>
> Jack Gates
>
> --
> "In the days of ancient Rome when the republic was still a republic,
> Lucius Cassius, one of the city's most venerated consuls, famously
> coined the phrase cui bono.
>
> It means As a benefit to whom?, and Lucius Cassius, inquisitive and
> analytical by nature, was always asking the question... whether he was
> investigating a crime or unraveling political corruption." - Simon
> Black
>
> Like I have always said, "Follow the flow of the money it always
> reveals the truth."
>
>
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