Re: embedding prov metadata in the specs

Hi, I added the proposed rdf-a descriptions for the dc-note as well.
They work on RDF-a 1.1 with the distiller:
http://www.w3.org/2012/pyRdfa/#distill_by_uri+with_options.

Just in case, I added the prefixes.

Best,
Daniel

2013/2/14 Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>

>
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 07:14 , Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>
> > Let us make use of my jet-lag:-)
> >
> > For the example below, the change to RDFa 1.1 is pretty simple:
> >
> > <div prefix="prov: http://www.w3.org/ns/prov# class="rdf2rdfa">
> >
> > should make it:-)
> >
> > The point is that all the other prefixes are pre-defined for RDFa 1.1 as
> of today. Actually, when Prov becomes a recommendation, even the prefix
> definition above becomes obsolete, because it becomes also predefined,
> although it may some time for that change to get through various
> implementations, so it may be wise to keep it for a while. (Adding @prefix
> statements for predefined prefixes is not an error unless it changes the
> URI.)
> >
>
> (Hm. In my free time or jet-laged period I am just reading a novel from a
> writer called Thomas Mann, who has such long and convoluted sentences. It
> seems that I am under his influence:-)
>
> Ivan
>
>
> > The rest is o.k. with RDFa 1.1, too (it is not RDFa 1.1 Lite, I am not
> sure we have to worry about that)
> >
> > Ivan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 13, 2013, at 13:53 , Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Ivan when you get time let us know what the best is.
> >>
> >> Hopefully early next week?
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 13, 2013, at 14:46, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Guys,
> >>>
> >>> please, do not use RDFa 1.0. On the code in this mail the main
> difference is not to use xmlns:XXX (which is deprecated in RDFa 1.1 and
> also strongly advised against its usage) but, rather, @prefix.
> >>>
> >>> (Sorry I cannot check things right now, I am at a conference and only
> have access to the net time to time. I am happy to look at this later.)
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Ivan
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 05:38 , Paul Groth <pgroth@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Luc,
> >>>>
> >>>> RDFa would be great. Your example looks pretty good. PROV-O already
> has RDFa embedded but doesn't describe the provenance of the document
> itself (I think).
> >>>>
> >>>> The following is some example turtle for prov-o. I tried to present
> what I think would be minimal but also show off what we've done. From the
> turtle, we can generate RDFa and paste that into the top of the page.
> >>>>
> >>>> @prefix  prov: <http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#> .
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-prov-o-20121211/>
> >>>>  prov:wasRevisionOf <http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-o-20120724/>;
> >>>>  prov:specializationOf <http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/>;
> >>>>  prov:wasAttributedTo <http://tw.rpi.edu/instances/TimLebo>;
> >>>>  #add other authors/editors here
> >>>>  prov:wasAttributedTo <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov>;
> >>>>  prov:wasInfluencedBy <
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-prov-o-20121211/#acknowledgements>.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://tw.rpi.edu/instances/TimLebo> a prov:Person .
> >>>> <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov> a prov:Organization .
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> RDFa generated with http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/rdf2rdfa/
> >>>>
> >>>> <div xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"
> >>>>   xmlns:rdfs="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#"
> >>>>   xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
> >>>>   xmlns:prov="http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#"
> >>>>   xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#"
> >>>>   class="rdf2rdfa">
> >>>> <div class="description" about="
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-prov-o-20121211/">
> >>>>    <div rel="prov:specializationOf" resource="
> http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/"/>
> >>>>    <div rel="prov:wasAttributedTo">
> >>>>       <div class="description" about="
> http://tw.rpi.edu/instances/TimLebo"
> >>>>            typeof="prov:Person"/>
> >>>>    </div>
> >>>>    <div rel="prov:wasAttributedTo">
> >>>>       <div class="description" about="http://www.w3.org/2011/prov"
> >>>>            typeof="prov:Organization"/>
> >>>>    </div>
> >>>>    <div rel="prov:wasInfluencedBy"
> >>>>         resource="
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-prov-o-20121211/#acknowledgements"/>
> >>>>    <div rel="prov:wasRevisionOf"
> >>>>         resource="http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-o-20120724/"/>
> >>>> </div>
> >>>> </div>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> Paul
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Luc Moreau <
> l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Are we willing to eat our own "dog food" for our specifications and
> >>>> embed some prov metadata in the documents? If we do it, we should do
> it
> >>>> for the
> >>>> PR release.
> >>>>
> >>>> What approach do we go for? rdfa? If so, what do we put in there?
> >>>>
> >>>> Alternatively, metadata link to a provenance file? An early attempt
> >>>> describing the WG specs
> >>>> can be found at:
> >>>>
> https://github.com/lucmoreau/ProvToolbox/blob/master/prov-n/src/test/resources/prov/prov-family2.pn
> >>>>
> >>>> Luc
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Professor Luc Moreau
> >>>> Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
> >>>> University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
> >>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
> >>>> United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
> >>>
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