Re: examples with blank nodes in prov-o html document

On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dm/XML/prov-n require an explicit identifier which we don't have in this example.

Why not make one up?

-TIm

> 
> Professor Luc Moreau
> Electronics and Computer Science
> University of Southampton 
> Southampton SO17 1BJ
> United Kingdom
> 
> On 12 Feb 2013, at 14:54, "Timothy Lebo" <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Luc,
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The prov-o document has several examples with blank nodes.
>>>>> Some of them are difficult
>>>>> to express in prov-n/prov-xml.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Consider:
>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/5495d990f17b/testcases/provo/prov-o-property-hadUsage-PASS.ttl
>>>>> 
>>>>> The usage has no identifier we can use in the derivation.
>>>> 
>>>> Any identifier will do; you may choose a new one for each bnode you find.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Should we keep examples of this kind in the specification or should we introduce an explicit
>>>>> identifier for usage here?
>>>> We are using blank nodes to help the reader focus on the structure of the PROV-O pattern.
>>>> I think this is appropriate for the audience of PROV-O.
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps it's just a matter of knowing how to handle bnodes when mapping to other serializations?
>>> 
>>> We don't specify that. So, we don't  how express that example in prov-xml/prov-n.
>> 
>> In XML, it'd be an element with no @id attribute (since, that's exactly what a blank node is).
>> I haven't written any translators to XML or N, so I guess I don't understand the problem clearly enough.
>> What is difficult about "filling something in" if it's not there?
>> This is exactly the correct interpretation of a bnode.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

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