Re: updated prov-o provenance

On Apr 30, 2013, at 14:46 , Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote:

> Ivan,
> 
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 14:08 , Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ivan,
>>> 
>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o
>>> 
>>> is redirecting to:
>>> 
>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-o.ttl
>> 
>> Well... this is the URI it has to redirect to: it is the provenance information for prov-o.
> 
> My apologies, I temporarily confused the provenance of prov vs. prov namespace concatenation work. (I'm just spinning up for the day without the aid of coffee…)
> 
> When I said 
> "Shouldn't http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o be redirecting to /ns", I meant 
> "Shouldn't http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o be directing to somewhere OTHER than within https://dvcs.w3.org/hg?"
> 
> IIRC, the redirects into mercurial were a temporary development solution. 
> It was my impression that those files would get a real home somewhere "more permanent" in your w3.org CVS-land.

Yes, that is also my understanding. I hope that at some point those files become stable; when I get the green light from our chairs:-) I plan to install those in the /prov/provenance directory and change the redirections. But, afaik, Paul and/or Luc want still to massage those a bit after we are over the publication hurdle...

> 
> 
>> 
>> The issue is: why is 
>> 
>>  https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-o.ttl
>> 
>> identical to the ns/prov-o.ttl?
> 
> By ns/prov-o.ttl, do you mean http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o ?
> 
> If so, I don't see how the response from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o  is identical to the response of https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-o.ttl
> Their responses differ significantly.
> 

Sorry. It was just a superficial view of mine, you are right.


> To be sure, I added another check in the namespace test https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/rev/e269faf53182
> and it is content (pun accidental):
> 
> prov/namespace$ bin/test-w3org.sh
> 
> pass: text/turtle          from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov matches releases/prov-20130430/prov.ttl
> pass: application/rdf+xml  from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov matches releases/prov-20130430/prov.owl
> pass: application/xml      from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov matches prov.xsd
> 
> pass: text/turtle          from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o matches prov-o.ttl
> pass: application/rdf+xml  from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o matches prov-o.owl
> 
> pass: text/turtle          from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o-inverses matches prov-o-inverses.ttl
> pass: application/rdf+xml  from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o-inverses matches prov-o-inverses.owl
> 
> pass: text/turtle          from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-links matches prov-links.ttl
> pass: application/rdf+xml  from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-links matches prov-links.owl
> pass: application/xml      from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-links matches prov-links.xsd
> 
> pass: text/turtle          from http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o matches ../provenance/prov-o.ttl
> pass: application/rdf+xml  from http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o matches ../provenance/prov-o.rdf
> 
> 
> 
>> It should not, it should contain provenance info!
> 
>  https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-o.ttl contains provenance of prov-o.
> 
> http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o contains the OWL definitions of prov-o.
> 
> These are different things, and they look correct to me.
> 
> What does not look correct is the redirect from http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o that lands into mercurial. I like the content, just not where the content is residing.
> 

See above!

Ivan

> 
>> 
>> For all other documents, the same redirection leads to
>> 
>>  https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.ttl
>> 
>> per what Luc gave me yesterday, but the prov-o was an exception. I do not know why; this is something I was not involved with…
> 
> Yes, this is what I understand to be the intent. Except the mercurial home for everything.
> 
> Regards,
> Tim
> 
>> 
>> Ivan
>> 
>>> 
>>> Shouldn't this be redirecting to /ns?
>>> Right content, wrong place, I think.
>>> 
>>> -Tim
>>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I *think* this has been done, we had a round of updates of the prov-o files; can one of you check whether this is still an open action?
>>>> 
>>>> Ivan
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 15:42 , Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Paul.
>>>>> 
>>>>> @Ivan can you push hg/provenance/prov-o.ttl  to w3.org?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Tim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This needs to get pushed to the right provenance location. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And then were cool I think
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 15:27, Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I tweaked the prov-o provenance to align with some of Luc's URI in prov-family, and to update the version URIs described:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/rev/7f4f8bf7c9f6
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are these just getting pushed to w3.org/ns, or is there more coordination to do?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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