- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:37:36 +0200
- To: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
- Cc: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
On Apr 29, 2013, at 18:29 , Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote: > Ivan, > > On Apr 29, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote: > >> >> On Apr 29, 2013, at 18:12 , Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote: >> >>> Ivan, >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 17:55 , Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think we would need the following: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Are you planning to provide svg through content negotiation too? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I do not think so; it would not fit the conneg stuff (unless you add the RDF/XML content into the metadata of SVG, or you put the content as RDFa…). >>> >>> How does providing an SVG not fit the "conneg stuff"? >> >> Well... conneg means the same information expressed by different means. > > Agreed. > >> I am not sure a graphical representation of the provenance (RDF) graph really qualifies… > > I do :-) > >> >> But I can be convinced. > > You said it yourself, "graphical **representation**" (my emphasis). > The fact that it's graphical does not change the fact that it's a representation. > > Whether it be TXT, HTML, XML, RDF, or SVG; content is conveyed by a concrete representation, a set of signs within a particular sign system. > Ok. I will add this but... only tomorrow! It is past 6pm here:-) Cheers Ivan > -Tim > > > > >> >> Ivan >> >> >>> >>> -Tim >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Ivan >>>> >>>> >>>>> Luc >>>>> >>>>> On 04/29/2013 04:37 PM, Ivan Herman wrote: >>>>>> Luc, >>>>>> >>>>>> to be sure that I do not mess up something. At the moment, each file is redirected to its own thing. Ie, the .htaccess file looks like this: >>>>>> >>>>>> RewriteEngine On >>>>>> RewriteBase /2011/prov/provenance >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-dm.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-dm.ttl [R] >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-n.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-n.ttl [R] >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-o.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-o.ttl [R] >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-constraints.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-constraints.ttl [R] >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-links.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-links.ttl [R] >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-primer.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-primer.ttl [R] >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-dictionary.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-dictionary.ttl [R] >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-aq.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-aq.ttl [R] >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-dc.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-dc.ttl [R] >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-implementations.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-implementations.ttl [R] >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-overview.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-overview.ttl [R] >>>>>> RewriteRule prov-xml.ttl https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-xml.ttl [R] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> do you mean to say that, instead, all should redirect to the same file, except for prov-o, but the redirection should also happen for provn, provx, and svg? >>>>>> >>>>>> Because this is quite some work (I also have to do this for the .var files), which is fine, it is just that I want to be sure this is exactly what you want... >>>>>> >>>>>> To make things complete, I would also add an rdf file, b.t.w. If you can generate that, too... >>>>>> >>>>>> What about prov-o? At the moment, I see only a ttl file. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also: the SVG file begins by: >>>>>> >>>>>> width="1152pt" height="267pt" >>>>>> >>>>>> Personally, I would remove those. What happens is that, with those attributes, the SVG file never scales. It always tries to display it with those dimensions which is crazy; if you have a retina display, for example (which I do not:-( then it will not scale to the full screen. Removing those will work, because there is also a viewport argument (this is a mistake most of the SVG generators do:-( >>>>>> >>>>>> Ivan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 16:08 , Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Paul, Ivan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> prov-family is available in its various formats at: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.ttl >>>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.provn >>>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.provx >>>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.svg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The provx and ttl versions still need curating. >>>>>>> When the working group finishes its activities, the date also need to be updated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, they can already be made available for tomorrow's release. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We agreed that: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-xxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> is to be redirected, after content negotiation, to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.[ttl,provn,provx] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> for all specs, except prov-o. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Luc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Professor Luc Moreau >>>>>>> Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 >>>>>>> University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 >>>>>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk >>>>>>> United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>>>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Professor Luc Moreau >>>>> Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 >>>>> University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 >>>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk >>>>> United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> ---- >> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >> mobile: +31-641044153 >> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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