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Re: PROV-ISSUE-501: Data Model Section 2.1.1, example [prov-dm]

From: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:56:49 +0100
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To: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
CC: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
HI Paul,
I would suggest you point to the current editor's draft and the html diff.
Luc

On 26/09/12 14:42, Paul Groth wrote:
> Maybe I should include the link to the current diff file in the response.
>
> I think in the email response people will want to see where the
> changes were made and not just the diff. But I can just include a link
> to the current editor's draft and that will resolve it.
>
> cheers
> Paul
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> The prov-dm document points to a diff file:
>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/diff.html
>>
>> However, it's accumulated diffs, not diff snapshot for a single issue.
>>
>> I would have thought it was obvious that we can always go to the
>> Editor's draft or the full diff?
>>
>> Luc
>>
>> On 26/09/2012 14:08, Paul Groth wrote:
>>> Hi Luc,
>>>
>>> I think this looks much better. I agree in keeping it. I wondered if
>>> we should link to the diff or link to the file with the diff so the
>>> change can be seen. Essentially, the file looks a lot better than the
>>> diff itself.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Luc Moreau<l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I have drafted a response to this issue, which you can find on the wiki at
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-501_.28DrivingACarToBoston.29
>>>>
>>>> I copy it below for your convenience.
>>>> Comments? feedback?
>>>>
>>>> Luc
>>>>
>>>> ISSUE-501 (DrivingACarToBoston)
>>>>
>>>> Original email:
>>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Sep/0091.html
>>>> Tracker: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/501
>>>> Group Response:
>>>>
>>>> As the author suggests, "driving a car to boston" is an example, and
>>>> therefore, needed to be put in a box.
>>>> It now appears as example 5, following examples 4 and 3 containing examples
>>>> of usage and generation of digital entities.
>>>> The author's comment confirms it is important to include this example in
>>>> this document. Indeed, the users states that "most people would consider a
>>>> single entity (not two or more)", whereas prov modelling requires the "car
>>>> at various locations" to be seen as different entities.
>>>> In general, we have been careful to limit the number of examples involving
>>>> physical entities, however, including a few is important to demonstrate the
>>>> generality of the model.
>>>>
>>>> References:
>>>> Implemented change changes:
>>>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/diff/0bbd5b38ab1b/model/prov-dm.html
>>>> Original author's acknowledgement:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/09/2012 09:33, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> PROV-ISSUE-501: Data Model Section 2.1.1, example [prov-dm]
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/501
>>>>
>>>> Raised by: Luc Moreau
>>>> On product: prov-dm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/LC_Feedback#Data_Model_Section_2.1.1.2C_example
>>>>
>>>> ISSUE-463
>>>>
>>>> The example of driving a car from Boston to Cambridge is not intuitive to
>>>> most readers and does not highlight the strengths of the PROV model. The
>>>> example focuses on the relocation of a physical object, which most people
>>>> would consider a single entity (not two or more). The examples later in the
>>>> spec use document editing, which is a straightforward example that will be
>>>> very intuitive to readers. I suggest replacing the car example with a
>>>> document example, which would also be more consistent with the rest of the
>>>> spec.
>>>>
>>>> Note: This example should also be contained within an "example" box rather
>>>> than as part of the text.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Professor Luc Moreau
>>>> Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
>>>> University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
>>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>>>> United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Professor Luc Moreau
>> Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
>> University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
>> Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>> United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
>>
>>
>
>

-- 
Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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