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Re: PROV-ISSUE-501: Data Model Section 2.1.1, example [prov-dm]

From: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:31:12 +0100
Message-ID: <EMEW3|ee5b5b3fa3131f3e98786f9e69d984e9o8PEVC08l.moreau|ecs.soton.ac.uk|506303A0.3080506@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
To: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
CC: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Paul,

The prov-dm document points to a diff file:
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/diff.html

However, it's accumulated diffs, not diff snapshot for a single issue.

I would have thought it was obvious that we can always go to the 
Editor's draft or the full diff?

Luc

On 26/09/2012 14:08, Paul Groth wrote:
> Hi Luc,
>
> I think this looks much better. I agree in keeping it. I wondered if
> we should link to the diff or link to the file with the diff so the
> change can be seen. Essentially, the file looks a lot better than the
> diff itself.
>
> What do you think?
> Paul
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Luc Moreau<l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>  wrote:
>    
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have drafted a response to this issue, which you can find on the wiki at
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-501_.28DrivingACarToBoston.29
>>
>> I copy it below for your convenience.
>> Comments? feedback?
>>
>> Luc
>>
>> ISSUE-501 (DrivingACarToBoston)
>>
>> Original email:
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Sep/0091.html
>> Tracker: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/501
>> Group Response:
>>
>> As the author suggests, "driving a car to boston" is an example, and
>> therefore, needed to be put in a box.
>> It now appears as example 5, following examples 4 and 3 containing examples
>> of usage and generation of digital entities.
>> The author's comment confirms it is important to include this example in
>> this document. Indeed, the users states that "most people would consider a
>> single entity (not two or more)", whereas prov modelling requires the "car
>> at various locations" to be seen as different entities.
>> In general, we have been careful to limit the number of examples involving
>> physical entities, however, including a few is important to demonstrate the
>> generality of the model.
>>
>> References:
>> Implemented change changes:
>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/diff/0bbd5b38ab1b/model/prov-dm.html
>> Original author's acknowledgement:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/09/2012 09:33, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>>
>> PROV-ISSUE-501: Data Model Section 2.1.1, example [prov-dm]
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/501
>>
>> Raised by: Luc Moreau
>> On product: prov-dm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/LC_Feedback#Data_Model_Section_2.1.1.2C_example
>>
>> ISSUE-463
>>
>> The example of driving a car from Boston to Cambridge is not intuitive to
>> most readers and does not highlight the strengths of the PROV model. The
>> example focuses on the relocation of a physical object, which most people
>> would consider a single entity (not two or more). The examples later in the
>> spec use document editing, which is a straightforward example that will be
>> very intuitive to readers. I suggest replacing the car example with a
>> document example, which would also be more consistent with the rest of the
>> spec.
>>
>> Note: This example should also be contained within an "example" box rather
>> than as part of the text.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Professor Luc Moreau
>> Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
>> University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
>> Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>> United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
>>
>>      
>
>
>    

-- 
Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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