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Re: PROV-ISSUE-497: prov-dm: Data Model Figure 1 [prov-dm]

From: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:08:45 +0100
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To: Khalid Belhajjame <Khalid.Belhajjame@cs.man.ac.uk>, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
CC: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>

All,
I see some strong push back on this.
Thank you I will draft a response.
Luc

On 26/09/2012 10:39, Khalid Belhajjame wrote:
> I think that putting both concept names and relation names in the
> Figure will be confusing for people, and Table 1 is just next to
> Figure 1, so there is no need to clutter Figure 1.
>
> Regards, khalid
>
>
> On 25 September 2012 19:28, Paul Groth<p.t.groth@vu.nl>  wrote:
>    
>> Akk, no! - leave it as is.
>>
>> I *love* Figure 1 - to me this is the "see PROV is super simple" figure.
>>
>> It's like the first thing I begin with every time I introduce the model.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Luc Moreau<l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>      
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am seeking the group's view on this issue.
>>>
>>> Figure 1 http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-dm/#prov-core-structures uses labels
>>> "WasGeneratedBy, ...
>>> for edges (corresponding to prov:wasGeneratedBy in prov-o or
>>> wasGeneratedBy in prov-n).
>>>
>>> Table 2 http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-dm/#overview-types-and-relations maps
>>> concepts Generation, ...
>>> to names.
>>>
>>> The reviewer suggest that concepts names are put next to relation names
>>> in Figure 1.
>>>
>>> I fear this may clutter the diagram.  However, if the group is happy
>>> with this, I will implement it.
>>>
>>> Can you express your views?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Luc
>>>
>>> On 10/09/2012 09:30, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>>>        
>>>> PROV-ISSUE-497: prov-dm: Data Model Figure 1 [prov-dm]
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/497
>>>>
>>>> Raised by: Luc Moreau
>>>> On product: prov-dm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/LC_Feedback#Data_Model_Figure_1
>>>>
>>>> ISSUE-463
>>>>
>>>> Since the following sections are organized by "PROV concept" (e.g., Generation), it would help the reader if those terms were included in the relationship labels along with the names (e.g., wasGeneratedBy).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> --
>>> Professor Luc Moreau
>>> Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
>>> University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
>>> Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>>> United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/
>> Assistant Professor
>> - Knowledge Representation&  Reasoning Group |
>>    Artificial Intelligence Section | Department of Computer Science
>> - The Network Institute
>> VU University Amsterdam
>>
>>      

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Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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