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Re: PROV-ISSUE-528: Data Model Section 5.5.3 [prov-dm]

From: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:34:22 +0100
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To: public-prov-wg@w3.org
Dear all,

Find a draft response to this issue on the wiki, at:
http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-528_.28MentionOf.29

For convenience it is copied below.

Thoughts? Comments?
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>       ISSUE-528 (MentionOf)
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>   * Original
>     email:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Sep/0118.html
>   * Tracker:http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/528
>   * Group Response:
>       o The group has already addressed ISSUE-524, explaining that
>         Bundles are not Collections.
>       o Given this, the suggestion that Membership can be used as a
>         replacement of Mention is not workable.
>       o In its design of MentionOf, the Working Group also used
>         another name isTopicOf, which like mention, conveys the idea
>         of a topic being mentioned in a bundle, rather than membership.
>       o We note that ISSUE-475 is also related to Mention
>   * References:
>       o ISSUE-524:http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-504_.28collection.2Fbundle.29
>       o ISSUE-475:http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/475
>       o Discussion thread on Mention
>         (long!):http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/385
>   * Proposed changes: none
>   * Original author's acknowledgement:
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>
>     [edit
>     <http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/index.php?title=ResponsesToPublicComments&action=edit&section=19>
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Regards,
Luc


On 09/10/2012 09:52 AM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
> PROV-ISSUE-528: Data Model Section 5.5.3   [prov-dm]
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> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/528
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> Raised by: Luc Moreau
> On product: prov-dm
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> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/LC_Feedback#Data_Model_Section_5.6.1
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> ISSUE-463
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> I do not believe Mention is necessary, given the definitions of Entity, Collection, and Bundle. Specifically, bundles are collections (see comments for section 2.2.2), which have Entities as members. Therefore, membership in a bundle can be done as for collections (as described in section 5.6).
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