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Re: PROV-ISSUE-288 (TLebo): ProvRDF issues for Usage [mapping prov-dm <-> prov-o]

From: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:42:13 +0100
Message-ID: <EMEW3|81e07d8a5dd552d44329a121112dc6eao83DgH08l.moreau|ecs.soton.ac.uk|5045F725.3000801@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
To: Satya Sahoo <satya.sahoo@case.edu>
CC: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>, Provenance Working Group <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi all,
This issue is now closed.
Luc

On 30/05/12 15:58, Satya Sahoo wrote:
> Hi Luc,
> Thanks for making the change and closing the issue!
>
> Best,
> Satya
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk 
> <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     The changes have been implemented. I am now closing this issue
>     pending review.
>
>     Regards,
>     Luc
>
>
>     On 05/24/2012 03:46 PM, Luc Moreau wrote:
>>     Hi Tim, Paolo,
>>
>>     There was no response about my suggestion, but a similar suggestion
>>     was made by Paolo, in prov-n document [1].
>>
>>     So, I have made entity optional in usage (in prov-dm) [2] and
>>     update the grammar in prov-n [1].
>>
>>     Paolo, can you update the example in [1]?
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Luc
>>
>>     [1]
>>     http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-n.html#expression-Usage
>>     [2]
>>     http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Usage
>>
>>     On 05/24/2012 01:28 AM, Timothy Lebo wrote:
>>>     Luc, Satya,
>>>
>>>     This issue was reassigned to DM from the "dm-provrdf mapping"
>>>     product.
>>>
>>>     Where do we stand on this "asymmetry" between an optional
>>>     activity on Generation but not Usage.
>>>
>>>     Thanks,
>>>     Tim
>>>
>>>     On Mar 6, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Luc Moreau wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Satya,
>>>>     Then, the equivalent would be to make the entity of a usage
>>>>     optional (i.e. the object of involvement).
>>>>     We can do it, if people feel it's appropriate.
>>>>     Luc
>>>>
>>>>     On 06/03/2012 15:43, Satya Sahoo wrote:
>>>>>     Hi Luc,
>>>>>     The issue is about having activity id as optional for
>>>>>     Generation and not for Usage - this is distinct from id of the
>>>>>     Generation and Usage record id.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Best,
>>>>>     Satya
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Luc Moreau
>>>>>     <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>>
>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>         Generation and usage have both optional id:
>>>>>         http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Generation
>>>>>         http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Usage
>>>>>
>>>>>         Luc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 05/03/12 13:45, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker
>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>             PROV-ISSUE-288 (TLebo): ProvRDF issues for Usage
>>>>>             [mapping prov-dm<->  prov-o]
>>>>>
>>>>>             http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/288
>>>>>
>>>>>             Raised by: Satya Sahoo
>>>>>             On product: mapping prov-dm<->  prov-o
>>>>>
>>>>>                 If activity id is optional for generation record,
>>>>>             why is it not so for usage record? These two points
>>>>>             need to be reconciled either way. (Satya)
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Similar to generation, time can be "folded" into
>>>>>             the "attribute" list. (Satya)
>>>>>
>>>>>             http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ProvRDF#Usage
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Professor Luc Moreau
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>>     University of Southampton          fax:+44 23 8059 2865  <tel:%2B44%2023%208059%202865>          
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>>        
>
>     -- 
>     Professor Luc Moreau
>     Electronics and Computer Science   tel:+44 23 8059 4487  <tel:%2B44%2023%208059%204487>          
>     University of Southampton          fax:+44 23 8059 2865  <tel:%2B44%2023%208059%202865>          
>     Southampton SO17 1BJ               email:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk  <mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>   
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>
>

-- 
Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
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