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Re: alternate of and sambas

From: Graham Klyne <graham.klyne@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:27:53 +0100
Message-ID: <507B3C69.8080907@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
To: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>
CC: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
I think that "foo superpropertyOf owl:sameAs" is true by definition for any 
property foo that is reflexive.  But I take your point that alternateOf captures 
some particular aspect of "sameness".  I'm not sure it's the aspect that is 
intended when owl:sameAs is used (but I also think owl:sameAs is difficult to 
use correctly).

#g
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On 11/10/2012 17:33, Jim McCusker wrote:
> I think it's a generalization of exactMatch and closeMatch.
> specializationOf is, to my eye, a superproperty of skos:broaderTransitive.
> Concepts are a little different, since they can be much fuzzier than things
> in the world. Is a narrower concept in any sense the same "thing" as it's
> broader counterpart? I predicted something like this (but not quite) in a
> 2010 OWLed paper, that we would need something like SKOS for non-conceptual
> things:
>
> http://www.webont.org/owled/2010/papers/owled2010_submission_12.pdf
>
> Jim
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Interesting comment. I changed subject lines to disconnect it from the
>> other thread. How do you think prov:alternateOf compliments the
>> mappings predicates in skos?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Paul
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:53 AM, James Cheney <jcheney@inf.ed.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The alternateOf relation is provided mainly for complex scenarios
>>>> involving things that change over time, and is not one of the core
>>>> relationships that casual users of PROV will employ routinely.
>>>
>>>
>>> I would actually like to see the linked data community adopt alternateOf
>> in
>>> place of owl:sameAs for their work. It's a reasonable replacement, as
>>> alternateOf is effectively a superproperty of sameAs. If that happens, it
>>> would be the most-used concept from PROV! This is a separate discussion,
>> but
>>> I think it's important to keep this in mind when we discuss it.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>> --
>>> Jim McCusker
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>>> Yale School of Medicine
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>>>
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>>
>
>
>
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