- From: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 12:02:14 +0100
- To: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
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Dear all,
I drafted a response to ISSUE-529, ISSUE-524, ISSUE5-519, ISSUE-523.
It can be found at
http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#PROV-DM_issues_involving_inheritance,
and is copied below for information.
Feedback welcome!
Cheers,
Luc
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PROV-DM issues involving inheritance
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(Empty Collection)
* Original
email:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Sep/0119.html
* Tracker:http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/529
* Group Response:
o In an open world context, absence of the relation hadMember(c,e)
does not imply that a collection c is empty. Hence, the group
introduced a class EmptyCollection to indicate when a collection
is empty.
o Figure 11, like UML diagrams, is informative. It shows that
Collection and EmptyCollection are linked with Entity, by means
of a Generalization association. Therefore, a Collection and
EmptyCollection are also entities with an id and attributes.
o Concretely, prov-dm (prov-n) sees all the sub-types (e.g.
prov:type='prov:Collection' ) as type information is expressed
by the prov:type attribute.
o The handling of these subtypes is consistent with other subtypes
in the model, e.g. revision, softwareAgent, etc
o Prov-dm, as a conceptual model, leaves the implementation of
these inherited types to concrete serializations.
* References:
* Implemented changes:
o Changed the text to indicate that PROV defines no collection
specific attributes.
o http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/diff/9fb92e012cec/model/prov-dm.html
* Original author's acknowledgement:
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(Bundle/Collection)
* Original
email:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Sep/0114.html
* Tracker:http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/524
* Group Response:
o The group has already addressed ISSUE-504, explaining that
Bundles are not Collections.
* References:
o ISSUE-504:http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ResponsesToPublicComments#ISSUE-504_.28collection.2Fbundle.29
* References:
* Proposed changes:
o Changed the text to indicate that PROV defines no
collection/bundle specific attributes.
o http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/diff/9fb92e012cec/model/prov-dm.html
* Original author's acknowledgement:
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and ISSUE-523 (Influence Inheritance)
* Original
email:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Sep/0109.html
* Original
email:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2012Sep/0113.html
* Tracker:http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/519
* Tracker:http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/523
* Group Response:
o First, a reminder that UML diagrams are informative.
o The prov-constraints document provides normative information
about Influence. See Inference 15.
o For instance, the following inference is permitted, allowing to
infer a wasInfluencedBy statement from a wasGeneratedBy statement.
IF wasGeneratedBy(id; e,a,_t,attrs) THEN wasInfluencedBy(id; e, a, attrs).
*
o Whatever appears as id/attributes in wasGeneratedBy becomes also
id/attributes in wasInfluencedBy
o Whatever appears as entity (e) in wasGeneratedBy becomes
influencee in wasInfluencedBy
o Whatever appears as activity (a) in wasGeneratedBy becomes
influencer in wasInfluencedBy
o Given this, prov-dm should define the minimalist characteristics
for wasInfluencedBy in a technology agnostic way.
o Inheritance is a way of implementing Inference 15 of
prov-constraints (and this approach was successfully followed by
prov-o), but it does not have to be implemented that way. For
instance, a rule based system could simply implement Inference
15 without requiring inheritance. The current prov-xml schema
does not define WasGeneratedBy as an extension if Influence. A
record based system may not rely on inheritance.
o As the author suggests, inheritance would imply that attributes
are inherited by the children relation. It is not the case that
wasGeneratedBy has influencer/influencee attributes, but
instead, we want to show that they correspond to activity/entity
in that case.
o Given this, the document should be changed as follows:
+ The UML diagram in Figure 8 should not show a Generalization
association between WasGeneratedBy (and others) and
WasInfluencedBy.
+ A table should be introduced showing which attributes in
Generation/Usage/etc are influencer or influencee.
o With these changes, the issue raised by the author is no longer
applicable: it is no longer the case that wasGeneratedBy etc can
be used anywhere between agent/activity/entity.
o For the comment "The notion of influence is useful for the PROV
model, but it is unclear whether this is intended to represent
an extension point for adopters of the spec. How should it be
implemented?", we have shown with prov-o, prov-n, and prov-xml
various ways of implementing Influence. According to Section 6,
Influence is not seen as an extensibility point of the model,
instead, it is seen as a means to express influence in PROV
without being specific about its nature. We note the following,
quoted from the specification:
+ It is recommended to adopt these more specific relations
when writing provenance descriptions. It is anticipated that
the Influence relation may be useful to express queries over
provenance information.
* References:
o Inference
15:http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-constraints-20120911/#influence-inference
o Current xml
schema:http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/f0e8bc2ae457/xml/schema/prov.xsd
o Extensibility
section:http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-dm/#extensibility-section
* Implemented changes:
o Changed figure 8, removing Generalization relation between
WasGeneratedBy,etc and WasInfluencedBy
o Added table 7.
o http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/diff/9fb92e012cec/model/prov-dm.html
* Original author's acknowledgement:
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