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Re: prov-dm, prov-n, prov-constraints preliminary staging

From: Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:39:14 +0000
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To: "Miles, Simon" <simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>
CC: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Simon,

I want to be able to contrast the sentence we are discussing with:

"Usage, start, end, generation, invalidation, communication, derivation, 
attribution, association, and delegation are also influence."

Luc

On 11/22/2012 05:32 PM, Miles, Simon wrote:
> Hi Luc,
>
> OK. It is the phrasing that is odd. I have no problem with "defined as" in itself, but the phrase "defined as Influence", as this does not seem meaningful.
>
> Given what you say, would one of the following be OK?
>
> Specialization is not defined as a subtype of Influence
> Specialization is not defined as a kind of Influence
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
> On 22 Nov 2012, at 17:24, "Luc Moreau" <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Simon,
>>
>> It's one of the changes approved as part of ISSUE-525.
>>
>> We, in prov-dm, do not define specialization as an influence. Others may
>> do, and we don't disallow it.
>> So I wouldn't want to say that specialization is not a sub-type of
>> Influence, since this seems
>> to prevent others from doing it.
>>
>> Luc
>>
>>
>> On 11/22/2012 03:53 PM, Miles, Simon wrote:
>>> Section 5.5.1: "Specialization is not defined as Influence" sounds odd, and I'm not sure what it means. Do you mean "Specialization is not a kind of Influence" or "Specialization is not a sub-type of Influence"? The same issue applies in Sections 5.5.2 and 5.6.2 for Alternate and MemberOf.
>> -- 
>> Professor Luc Moreau
>> Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
>> University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
>> Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
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>>

-- 
Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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