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Re: Potentially improving outreach?

From: Christine Runnegar <runnegar@isoc.org>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:21:47 +0100
Cc: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <7E63B5C5-6274-4EE5-A8A6-94B8981CCBFB@isoc.org>
To: "Miles, Simon" <simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>
Dear Simon,

Apologies for the slow reply. I was caught up in the Internet Governance Forum last week, and a Federations Across Borders workshop this week.

Incidentally, I raised the potential for provenance to support attribute management with the identity experts.

The primer is a great document. It provides a very useful introduction to the model.

I may be asking the impossible (at least in the short term), but I was imagining an easy to use interactive tool (UI) for the provenance novice that would essentially walk the user through the application of the model. Taking this a step further, I am also imagining a tool that would allow a user to use the model without having to understand any of the underlying ontology/syntax etc.

If you think this might be a potential topic for a grad student, I would be happy to work with you to elaborate this thinking further.

Kind regards,
Christine

On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Miles, Simon wrote:

> Hi Christine,
> 
> I'm interested in your suggestion below, both because it relates to the aims of the primer and because it sounds like a potentially good topic for a masters/undergraduate student project :-)
> 
> Can you say more about what you had in mind? Did you mean something passive like a slide-show of what to do in a particular IDE, or interactive where the tool is validating/augmenting what the user has done? Is the user you had in mind a developer using a particular programming/embedding language (e.g. Java or RDFa), or someone considering what provenance to model in their application at a design level? In what aspects do you think the guidance in the primer is insufficient by itself and where such a tool could help most fill the gap?
> 
> thanks,
> Simon
> 
> Dr Simon Miles
> Senior Lecturer, Department of Informatics
> Kings College London, WC2R 2LS, UK
> +44 (0)20 7848 1166
> 
> Evolutionary Testing of Autonomous Software Agents:
> http://eprints.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/1370/
> ________________________________________
> From: Christine Runnegar [runnegar@isoc.org]
> Sent: 01 November 2012 11:07
> To: public-prov-wg@w3.org
> Subject: Potentially improving outreach?
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> Speaking with Ivan this morning, he suggested I send an email around prior to the next face-to-face meeting.
> 
> Thinking about greater outreach ... and with full knowledge that is a big (and possibly unreasonable) ask .... sometime in the future after the other work is done, might we be able to consider developing a tool (or user interface) for non-provenance experts that would help them walk through the application/implementation of the specs? (e.g. a practical compliment to the primer).
> 
> Christine
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