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Re: FYI prov in openannotation

From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 23:12:54 -0500
Cc: Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <076CB443-D117-46FF-8B45-BAD90E7E3428@rpi.edu>
To: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>

On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:11 PM, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:

> Hi Tim
> 
> So they are changing that as far as I understand. By Generating they really mean serializing.

Ah. Sorry. I didn't piece together the email (about renaming) with the diagram (that had the old name).
That's cool, then.

Regards,
Tim



> There's the process of actually annotating and then the annotation system serializing the annotation.
> 
> cheers
> Paul
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote:
> Paul,
> 
> I'm asking you in case you're more familiar with their work (since, you've talked to them…)
> 
> [from the hip]
> 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-openannotation/2012Oct/0001.html
> 
> has a subclass of Activity called "Generating".
> 
> That seems a bit odd. Wouldn't "Annotating" be a slightly more natural name? I see "Annotating" at the bottom, but not sure how it differs from "Generating"...
> 
> -Tim
> 
> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:
> 
>> good news...
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM
>> Subject: NEW DRAFT: Provenance
>> To: public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
>> Cc: "Groth, P.T." <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
>> 
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> As a result of the discussions on the mailing list, we confirm the renaming of the following properties:
>> - generatedBy to serializedBy
>> - generatedAt to serializedAt
>> It is common belief that these better represent the original purpose without generating confusion (i.e. algorithms can “generate” annotations as well).
>> 
>> Also, following on from the past emails and a fruitful in-person discussion with Paul Groth (co-chair of the Provenance Working Group) and Stian Soiland-Reyes, it seems reasonable to provide a simplified mapping to the PROV model. The direct mapping will consist of three simple subproperties:
>> - oa:generatedBy subproperty of prov:wasAttributedTo
>> - oa:annotatedBy subproperty of prov:wasAttributedTo
>> - oa:equivalentTo subproperty of prov:alternate
>> 
>> The date/times are intentionally not represented above.  In order to do so with PROV, it is necessary to adopt a more complicated approach similar of what has been depicted in the figure attached to a previous email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-openannotation/2012Oct/0001.html.
>> These aspects will be listed probably in the Appendix of  the new specs.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Paolo & Rob
>> 
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>> Biomedical Informatics Research & Development
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> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
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> Assistant Professor
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>   Artificial Intelligence Section | Department of Computer Science
> - The Network Institute
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