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Re: PROV-ISSUE-371 (junzhao): timestamped provo.owl [PROV-O HTML]

From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 11:36:54 -0400
Cc: Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <95A969F2-4AEF-46DB-BEF5-76A0C7DA1EC4@rpi.edu>
To: Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
Jun,

I am happy to help settle the versioning issues with the OWL ontology,
but I'm afraid that I'm not sure what your concerns are.

We have three options:

1) hg tag the OWL file
2) add to the prov-o html automation to reference the OWL version that it is documenting
3) <> owl:versionURI

Could you please clarify your concerns so that we can scope the effort to address them?

Thanks,
Tim


On May 5, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Paul Groth wrote:

> This seems good. Stian can you add it?
> 
> Thanks
> Paul
> 
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>> On 03/05/2012 11:02, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>> Don't you think the OWL should contain something like
>>> 
>>> <>  owl:versionIRI
>>> <www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-o-20120501/ProvenanceOntology.owl>   ?
>> 
>> Stian, yes, we should also have that!
>> 
>> -- Jun
>> 
>>> 
>>> I would +1 that as people like myself will download the OWL locally
>>> for processing with say Sesame-Elmo, and it later will be important to
>>> know which one it is based on.
>>> 
>>> We just need to know the magic date to add it in advance.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Jun Zhao<jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>> 
>>>> I am happy with what we will do with the public release.
>>>> 
>>>> And dealing with versioning for internal releases can wait if you are
>>>> overwhelmed by other commitment at the moment.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Jun
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 02/05/2012 00:27, Tim Lebo wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jun,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The prov.owl will be "copied" to the official w3c website directory when
>>>>> the WD2 is published on Thursday, so there will be no question about what
>>>>> OWL file the HTML is talking about.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hopefully, the "dereferencability problem" (which paul took on and we
>>>>> asked Daniel to help with) will be addressed soon, which will provide the
>>>>> latest OWL when requesting the terms' URIs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we want to be explicit about what version of the ontology the HTML is
>>>>> taking about, I can look into exposing that within every compiled draft up
>>>>> to LC that is due in a few weeks. But generally, these are always in sync
>>>>> because the ontology changes less frequently and the HTML is generated much
>>>>> more frequently.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Please let me know which aspects you need most, so that we can address the
>>>>> right issues soon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 1, 2012, at 11:38, Provenance Working Group Issue
>>>>> Tracker<sysbot+tracker@w3.org>    wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> PROV-ISSUE-371 (junzhao): timestamped provo.owl [PROV-O HTML]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/371
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Raised by: Jun Zhao
>>>>>> On product: PROV-O HTML
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can we talk  about when or whether we will have snapshots for our
>>>>>> ontology, like  ProvenanceOntology-20120430.owl? Or achieve similar
>>>>>> functionality via other mechanisms?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Because our ontology is still work in progress, it is important to have
>>>>>> the right ontology content associated with each prov-o spec public release
>>>>>> or even work draft.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think this would be something really nice to have at least for this
>>>>>> upcoming public release.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am happy to discuss more on this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- Jun
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> --
> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/
> Assistant Professor
> Knowledge Representation & Reasoning Group
> Artificial Intelligence Section
> Department of Computer Science
> VU University Amsterdam
> 
> 
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