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Re: PROV-ISSUE-217 (account-asserter): What is the asserter of an account? [prov-dm]

From: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:38:22 -0400
Cc: public-prov-wg@w3.org
Message-Id: <C3572BB0-BEDF-4FF8-BFFE-28B6C5133D61@rpi.edu>
To: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>

On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Luc Moreau wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I am proposing to close this issue since, as the example [1]
> on attribution of provenance shows, asserter can be expressed
> by mean of wasAttributedTo.

+1, also noting that Accounts may be Entities and described as such separately.

-Tim

> 
> Regards,
> Luc
> 
> [1] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#section-example-c
> 
> On 01/16/2012 05:38 PM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>> PROV-ISSUE-217 (account-asserter): What is the asserter of an account? [prov-dm]
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/217
>> 
>> Raised by: Luc Moreau
>> On product: prov-dm
>> 
>> The prov-dm document contains the following note, in the account section:
>> 
>> Currently, the non-terminal asserter is defined as IRI and its interpretation is outside PROV-DM. We may want the asserter to be an agent instead, and therefore use PROV-DM to express the provenance of PROV-DM assertions. The editors seek inputs on how to resolve this issue.
>> 
>> Tim, in his design of accounts, is running ahead, making assumptions about the asserter.
>> 
>> So, are we supporting the following proposal:
>> an Account asserter is an agent.
>> 
>> Following this, a further question follows.
>> Assuming we have an entity ex:acc representing an account
>> entity(ex:acc)  // details to be finalized when we understand what identifiers are
>> and we express some provenance:
>> wasGenerated(ex:acc,ex:activity)
>> wasAttributed(ex:acc,ex:agent)
>> ....
>> 
>> Do we have any restrictions about where these provenance records can occur?
>> Can they be for instance included inside the account itself?
>> 
>> Or should they necessarily be occurring outside the account?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Luc
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
> 
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