Re: prov-wg: agenda Mar. 1, 2012

On Mar 1, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote:

> 
> On Feb 29, 2012, at 04:27 PM, Paul Groth wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> The agenda for tomorrow's telecon is at:
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2012.03.01
>> 
>> Note: there is a proposal in the agenda that we would like to vote on tomorrow. Due to time constraints, we ask that any objections to the proposal be raised before the telecon. This proposal has been in the agenda for several weeks so we don't think it should be of concern.
> 
> I'm sorry; I see no proposal in the agenda linked above.


That's what I get for keeping too many tabs open.  Found it --

> • Proposal: remove id and and attribute from alternateOf, specializationOf, and hasNote


My other comments stand. :-)

Ted


> It is often helpful to include the agenda content in any 
> message pointing to its web page.
> 
> It is also helpful to include relevant snippets of important
> text (with or without fragment-identified URIs) when they are
> being called out from external documents.
> 
> I'm guessing the proposal is the breakup of PROV-DM into the
> three component docs; in which case I am fully in support.
> 
> 
> On a separate topic, within the Agenda --
>> • Introduce the idea of an upgrade path, where the new reader is not required to learn about all the details of attributes, intervals, events, constraints to write simple provenance (informally referred to  as Scruffy Provenance)
> 
> The sooner we can move away from any reference to "Scruffy 
> Provenance," (even as used here!) the better.
> 
> I suggest we adopt terms similar to those used in other standards,
> i.e., "Core"/"Advanced"/"Full" (ODBC); "Core"/"Packages" (SQL);
> "OWL Lite"/"OWL DL"/"OWL FULL" (OWL)...
> 
> I suggest labels like "Simple" and "Detailed", where the latter
> may include any of the detailed attribute categories (but does 
> not require that all be present/used/understood).  
> 
> If need be, "Detailed" could be further divided (as "OWL 2 DL" 
> has subsets "OWL 2 EL"/"OWL 2 QL"/"OWL 2 RL").  "Simple with
> xyz" could be used to say what additional attributes are in
> any given Provenance Document, but all "Simple with xyz" could
> equally be called "Detailed"...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ted
> 
> 
> 
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