Hi Paul, At long last, I have made a proposal for this issue, essentially making time optional for imprecise derivation. This time is the generation time. http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/rev/912069d8f106 I was keen to have a single placeholder for generation time: the generation record. This is still the case. Optional time in imprecise derivation is merely a shortcut as expressed by the new rule: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#derivation-time-elimination For this to work, we had to have activity optional in generation record. Hence, we are also addressing ISSUE-205. Stian's indications was that this was working well in PROV-O. Once this has been reviewed, I proposed to close both issues. There will be an extra task to perform: all common relations that subclass derivation may now have an optional generation time. This is already exploited by Paolo when dealing with collections. Cheers, Luc On 07/23/2011 04:46 PM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote: > PROV-ISSUE-43 (derivation-time): Deriviation should have associated time [Conceptual Model] > > http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/43 > > Raised by: Paul Groth > On product: Conceptual Model > > Other relationships have time associated with them (e.g. use, generation, control) > > There is no optional time associated with derivation. > > Suggested resolution is to add the following to the definition of isDerivedFrom: > > - May contain a "derived from time" t, the time or time intervals when b1 was derived from b2 > > Example: > isDerivedFrom(b1,b2, t) > > > > > > -- Professor Luc Moreau Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavmReceived on Wednesday, 18 January 2012 09:52:07 GMT
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