Re: Collecting PROV examples

Sounds good.  I can't attend the call, but if you guys decide to move 
forward, I'd be glad to help.

Thanks.

On 2/28/12 10:32 AM, Paul Groth wrote:
> Hi Reza, all:
>
> This is a good idea. Maybe we can do this posthoc, or after we get 
> examples together. I think on the call this week we'll need to get 
> somebody to agree to maybe manage or document the examples.
>
> cheers,
> Paul
>
> Reza B'Far (Oracle) wrote:
>> Tim (et. al):
>>
>> A soft suggestion - We may want to put in some examples for the top 10
>> domains that at least the folks participating in the WG believe are
>> applicable domains. In other words, I believe some organization on the
>> page (via tagging or structure, whatever) that is by domain would
>> benefit us. In order to foster the adoption of the standard, we need to
>> show folks that are looking for solutions to specific problems, more so
>> than tool builders, how they can solve their specific problems. Right
>> now, I think in general we appeal to tool builders which will elongate
>> the adoption cycle.
>>
>> Examples of such domains would be Journalism, Life Sciences, Financial
>> and Legal Audit, etc. May be we could just do a quick vote on what top
>> 10 domains are and organize around those. Anyways, just a thought.
>>
>> Best.
>>
>> On 2/28/12 8:06 AM, Timothy Lebo wrote:
>>> Associating this thread to ISSUE-271
>>>
>>> -Tim
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Timothy Lebo wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've added TODOs that I will incorporate into the proposal:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/index.php?title=PROV_examples&oldid=5953#TODO 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Keep those suggestions coming!
>>>>
>>>> -Tim
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Timothy Lebo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:56 AM, Luc Moreau wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for proposing a structure.
>>>>>> I am fine with it, just, maybe, a suggestion.
>>>>>> I think this example repository may be useful for the community 
>>>>>> to look at examples.
>>>>>> A given example foo, may end up being split across multiple 
>>>>>> representations asn/rdf/xml/...,
>>>>>> potentially under different numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't it better to allow for examples to be listed directly at 
>>>>>> the toplevel, and
>>>>>> inside a given example directory eg-1, we could find one or more 
>>>>>> files encoding the example,
>>>>>> the convert subdirectory would keep the same intent, of an 
>>>>>> automated conversion (as opposed to
>>>>>> hand crafted one).
>>>>> Thanks, Luc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm okay with removing the initial"format"  layer. Can we keep the 
>>>>> convert/ nesting to indicate format changes?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Luc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28/02/2012 04:18, Timothy Lebo wrote:
>>>>>>> prov-wg,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I drafted a proposal for how the wg could organize concrete PROV 
>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please have a look at [1] and provide feedback before meeting 
>>>>>>> this Thursday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are planning to ask for volunteers to help populate the PROV 
>>>>>>> example collection to reflect their particular domains (or to 
>>>>>>> put toy/text examples in, too).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't expect to be able to anticipate all ways that we will 
>>>>>>> want to organize them, but I took a stab at it.
>>>>>>> If there are better ways, please let me know before we start 
>>>>>>> populating the collection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PROV_examples
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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