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Re: quick comment on Note in ProvRDF mapping

From: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:52:33 +0000
To: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
CC: James Cheney <jcheney@inf.ed.ac.uk>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <EMEW3|5755c7d3cc250702704d2e65948f507fo1DDqa08L.Moreau|ecs.soton.ac.uk|E4FAC025-8CA3-4343-B981-E53E675BEDA5@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Hi Tim 
But what about sub typing of alternateOf?

Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science
University of Southampton
Southampton SO17 1BJ
United Kingdom


On 14 Feb 2012, at 13:48, "Timothy Lebo" <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote:

> 
> On Feb 14, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Luc Moreau wrote:
> 
>> Hi James,
>> 
>> I think it was an oversight on our behalf (Paolo and I) not to include
>> an id for alternateOf/specializationOf. In our working copy,
>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/working-copy/towards-wd4.html
>> we have added them.
> 
> -1 leans towards bloat
> 
>> 
>> I also take the view that if we have an id then we have attributes, and vice-versa.
> 
> I agree.
> 
>> 
>> As a minimum, subtyping would be useful for these relations.
> 
> The subtyping can be placed onto your Note(id,[prov:type = "my subtype").
> This would let you reuse the same hadAnnotation relation.
> 
> -Tim
> 
> 
>> You will also recall, very early discussions about mapping of attributes for IVPof.
>> This could also be encoded with attributes.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Luc
>> 
>> 
>> On 02/14/2012 09:18 AM, James Cheney wrote:
>>> While we're on the subject, I'm no sure why alternateOf and specializationOf have attributes now, other than uniformity.
>>> 
>>> I think that if the relation has an id describing the relationship (used/Usage, rtc.) Then attributes make sense.  If an id doesn't make sense then attributes don't either - in RDF we need an id to hang the attributess off of.
>>> 
>>> I think that brevity should take precedence over uniformity, else we'll reinvent RDF or XML.
>>> 
>>> --James
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Professor Luc Moreau
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>> University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
>> Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
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>> 
>> 
> 
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