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Re: Update Connection TF

From: Kai Eckert <kai@informatik.uni-mannheim.de>
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:16:49 +0100
Message-ID: <4F312441.8020207@informatik.uni-mannheim.de>
To: Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com>
CC: runnegar@isoc.org, public-prov-wg@w3.org
For me, Skype would work (if it works), but both is ok. I thought you 
had problems using Skype, at least at work, so feel free to choose 
whatever suits you :-)

A telecon might be better, if more people choose to join us, in my 
experience, Skype CAN have problems with more than four participants.

So, I consider the date as fixed. See you next Monday!

Cheers,

Kai

Am 06.02.2012 20:22, schrieb Eric Stephan:
> Yes this sounds great.  Do you want to use my telecon number or try Skype?
>
> Eric
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:05 AM,<runnegar@isoc.org>  wrote:
>> Hello Kai and Eric.
>>
>>
>>
>> Monday next week would work for me if you would like to "meet".
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Kai Eckert"<kai@informatik.uni-mannheim.de>
>> Sent: Monday, 6 February, 2012 6:42pm
>> To: "Eric Stephan"<ericphb@gmail.com>
>> Cc: public-prov-wg@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: Update Connection TF
>>
>> Ok, maybe it was a little bit exaggerated to say we are on hold, that
>> does not mean that we are not allowed to do anything ;-) It was more a
>> confirmation that currently no concrete steps, especially regarding the
>> organization of specific conference calls, are expected by the WG.
>>
>> The rationale behind that is that such a call should be properly
>> announced to the connection group, involve the bridge person
>> substantially and not least is an expenditure of time for the WG members
>> and the participants of the connection group. Probably we can not do
>> that more than once for each connection, so we should not waste that
>> opportunity and be sure that we have the proper ground for fruitful
>> discussions and significant results.
>>
>> But of course we can continue on our side in the preparation work and
>> with our report, and any input of our connections is highly appreciated
>> (and needed) for the WG work.
>>
>> As you pointed out, the extraction of patterns based on our personal
>> work with connections where we are directly related to would be very useful.
>>
>> How about a TF call next Monday at 5 PM CET/11 AM EST, as usual?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Kai
>>
>>
>> Am 06.02.2012 18:23, schrieb Eric Stephan:
>>> Sounds reasonable about your approach with the Dublin Core vocabulary,
>>> It would be useful if possible that your experiences and
>>> methodologies are recorded in some fashion to help describe a pattern
>>> for others to follow who also wish to map their vocabularies to PROV.
>>>
>>> I don't entirely agree with the concept of the Connection Task Force
>>> being on hold until the draft documents are stable enough, because
>>> this perspective represents only one side of each "connection". The
>>> other side of each connection is articulating provenance requirements
>>> and practices. I 'm not advocating we meet frequently, but I would be
>>> in support of maintaining our informal report. For instance my
>>> connection work continues on my various research endeavors, but it
>>> would be nice to have a means to share this with our working group.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Kai Eckert
>>> <kai@informatik.uni-mannheim.de>  wrote:
>>>> Hi Eric and all,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to give a short update regarding the Connection TF after
>>>> our F2F meeting last week. As proposed in the telco of Oct 20th, 2011
>>>> [1], we would organize special telcos with member of connection groups,
>>>> like Creative Commons, to discuss our PROV model and work towards
>>>> best-practice recommendations for these groups.
>>>>
>>>> However, as our model is still subject to change, we will not approach
>>>> these external groups before we consider the model and the draft
>>>> documents stable enough to allow a proper discussion and collaboration
>>>> with
>>>> these groups.
>>>>
>>>> Instead, we will first start with best-practice recommendations and
>>>> outreach
>>>> towards groups where we are directly connected via WG members, namely
>>>> first
>>>> and foremost Dublin Core (via me). I took the responsibility to launch a
>>>> preliminary mapping between Dublin Core and PROV.
>>>>
>>>> The connection TF is on hold, until the WG declares the PROV model and
>>>> the
>>>> documents as ready, then we will continue with the outreach activities.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Kai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2011-10-20
>>>> --
>>>> Kai Eckert
>>>> Universitätsbibliothek Mannheim
>>>> Stellv. Leiter Abteilung Digitale Bibliotheksdienste
>>>> Schloss Schneckhof West / 68131 Mannheim
>>>> Tel. 0621/181-2946 Fax 0621/181-2918
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Kai Eckert
>> Universitätsbibliothek Mannheim
>> Stellv. Leiter Abteilung Digitale Bibliotheksdienste
>> Schloss Schneckhof West / 68131 Mannheim
>> Tel. 0621/181-2946 Fax 0621/181-2918
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

-- 
Kai Eckert
Universitätsbibliothek Mannheim
Stellv. Leiter Abteilung Digitale Bibliotheksdienste
Schloss Schneckhof West / 68131 Mannheim
Tel. 0621/181-2946 Fax 0621/181-2918
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