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Re: PROV-ISSUE-29 (mutual-iVP-of): can two bobs be mutually "IVP of" each other [Conceptual Model]

From: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:40:04 -0400
Message-ID: <CAAtgn=TNPn7m7gxc5t9_W4cjEG=eT+FGAu93WyX+VpZ-vKu8OQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Cc: public-prov-wg@w3.org
I am happy with closure.

Jim

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> With the release of the documents, we are proposing again to close
> this issue pending review.
>
> Feel free to reopen if WD5 does not address your concerns.
> Regards,
> Luc
>
>
> On 11/07/11 12:22, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>
>> PROV-ISSUE-29 (mutual-iVP-of): can two bobs be mutually "IVP of" each
>> other  [Conceptual Model]
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/**track/issues/29<http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/29>
>>
>> Raised by: Stephen Cresswell
>> On product: Conceptual Model
>>
>>
>> As it currently stands, I believe that it does not exclude the
>> possibility that two bobs may be mutually "IVP of" each other -
>> i.e. you could have bobs A, B such that (B IVPof A)&  (A IVPof B), and
>> this is surely not intended.
>>
>>
>> This could arise if, for bobs A, B :
>> - A and B both represent the same entity
>> - A and B share some immutable properties, and they have corresponding
>> values.
>> - B has some immutable properties which correspond to mutable properties
>> of A
>> - A has some immutable properties which correspond to mutable properties
>> of B
>>
>> Possibly the asserter-defined test (included in "IPV of" definition) that
>> real world states modelled by A and B are "consistent" may disallow
>> "IPV of" in this situation.  However, unless that is guaranteed, I think
>> that the definition of "B IPV of A" (if it is still to have a definition)
>> should additionally require that:
>> "A has no immutable properties which correspond to mutable properties of
>> B"
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>
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>


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