W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-prov-wg@w3.org > September 2011

RE: PROV-ISSUE-94 (pe-attributes): are process executions characterized in the same way as entities? [Conceptual Model]

From: Myers, Jim <MYERSJ4@rpi.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:16:44 +0000
To: Simon Miles <simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>, Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <3131E7DF4CD2D94287870F5A931EFC23030A1D@EX14MB2.win.rpi.edu>
+1. I think we have significant freedom with the 'recipe' link to capture info about the type of process occurring in the PE.

 Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-prov-wg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-prov-wg-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Simon Miles
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:22 AM
> To: Provenance Working Group WG
> Subject: Re: PROV-ISSUE-94 (pe-attributes): are process executions
> characterized in the same way as entities? [Conceptual Model]
> 
> My qualm here is that the standard is better if it is simpler, and if it is only
> constraining where there is a clear benefit.
> 
> The impetus for entities to have characterising attributes, as I understand, is
> that we need to be clear which of multiple perspectives on a thing we are
> making an assertion about when giving its provenance, e.g. "the report",
> "version 1 of the report", or "version
> 1 of the report on Simon's PC".
> 
> Is there similar need for process executions to have characterising attributes,
> or is it just making the standard more complex?
> 
> I also note that there was argument against process execution being a sub-
> class of entity, but this would remove further distinction between them.
> 
> Thanks,
> Simon
> 
> On 11 September 2011 16:49, Khalid Belhajjame
> <Khalid.Belhajjame@cs.man.ac.uk> wrote:
> > On 10/09/2011 22:20, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
> >> PROV-ISSUE-94 (pe-attributes): are process executions characterized
> >> in the same way as entities? [Conceptual Model]
> >>
> >> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/94
> >>
> >> Raised by: Luc Moreau
> >> On product: Conceptual Model
> >>
> >>
> >> are process executions characterized in the same way as entities? Should
> we give attributes to process executions?
> >>
> >
> > Just like entities, I think that process executions should have an
> > identifier and a set of attributes that characterize them. That said,
> > I think that in the case of process executions, we can try to specify
> > the list of attributes, or at least a subset, that can be used for
> > this
> > purpose: e.g., description, type (manual, automatic), etc.
> >
> > Khalid
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Dr Simon Miles
> Lecturer, Department of Informatics
> Kings College London, WC2R 2LS, UK
> +44 (0)20 7848 1166
Received on Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:17:16 GMT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.2.0+W3C-0.50 : Thursday, 26 April 2012 13:06:41 GMT