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Re: PROV-ISSUE-119 (vanilla-rdf): How does vanilla RDF work with PROV Ontology [Formal Model]

From: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 15:02:27 +0200
To: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
CC: Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CF897D0E1D2E4A4B819991A993691DA9@gmail.com>
 Hi Tim,  

I agree with you that you can just assert it…but one would need examples. So the question is how do we bring the component examples up into the FPWD. Maybe we can put it as a link somewhere (non-normitive) in the spec. I think this would go a long way to addressing the question.  

 I agree we should be better about making sure to use concrete examples

cheers,
Paul



On Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Timothy Lebo wrote:

> OWL ontologies can be used in "vanilla RDF" environments.
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> You just assert what you want directly instead of depending on the extra baggage of an OWL reasoner in your infrastructure.
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> OWL is just as useful for "vanilla RDF" developers, because it gives them a systematic description of what "vanilla RDF" assertions their widgets should emit.
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> In preparation for the post-FPWD PROV OWL development, I have been creating http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/tip/ontology/components
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> which is described at http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PROV_OWL_ontology_components
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> and includes examples that are described at http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PROV_OWL_ontology_component_examples
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> This last link is our start at providing examples that answer "great, but I how do I _use_ it?".
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> Regards,
> Tim
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>  
> p.s. I am hoping that, in the future, prov-wg members will START an ISSUE or question to this list by committing their example to the mercurial repository, and REFERENCE the concrete example in their discussion. I am in the process of back-filling concrete examples of those that were discussed in narrative in the last few months.
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> On Oct 6, 2011, at 5:11 AM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
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> >  
> > PROV-ISSUE-119 (vanilla-rdf): How does vanilla RDF work with PROV Ontology [Formal Model]
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> > http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/119
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> > Raised by: Paul Groth
> > On product: Formal Model
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> > The Provenance Ontology uses OWL for a number of reasons. However, we agreed at the last F2F that it was a good idea for adoption that that OWL be easy to use in "vanilla RDF" or developer friendly RDF.  
> >  
> > I was wondering if we could either add a section or another document that shows how some examples look in such vanilla rdf. Essentially, what can I do if I don't know anything about reasoning or even class hierarchies.  
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