Re: Comments on the Primer

Hi,

just to pick up on Khalid's comments, which I agree with: whatever happened to the journalism example? I would indeed have imagined 
the primer would be the right place for it.

I also agree that derivation should be pushed up as it is so central for provenance

Regards, -Paolo


On 11/24/11 10:09 AM, Khalid Belhajjame wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Here are some comments on the primer.
>
> My main concern is with respect to the structure. I find that Section 2 [1] delves into the definitions without giving the reader 
> a chance to have a rough idea on what the elements of the models are and how they are related to each other. In this respect, 
> PROV-DM, for instance, illustrates in Section 3 an overview of the model [2]. I am wondering if something similar can be done in 
> the primer. Probably not using the names of the constructs in the model, but rather using the newspaper example elaborated in 
> detail in Section 3, which by the way I think it is nicely articulated.
>
> In Section 3, turtle is used for encoding the examples. It looks fine, but I am wondering if it would be better to use instead the 
> examples listed in Appendix A, i.e., using the abstract syntax. In that case, the turtle examples may be moved to he Appendix.
>
> I like the order in which the concepts and relationships were introduced. Derivation is however left till the end. I think that 
> concept is quite important when talking about provenance. Would it be better to promote it by placing the definition after, let’s 
> say, Use and Generation.?
>
> In Section 2.3 [3],it is said that “Every Entity is created by an activity, which is called the generation of the entity”. Does 
> that statement always hold? In other words, are all entities the results of an activity?
>
> Thanks, khalid
>
> [1] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/primer/Primer.html#intuitive-overview-of-prov-dm
>
> [2] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html
>
> [3] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/primer/Primer.html#use-and-generation
>
>


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