- From: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 12:06:34 +0100
- To: public-prov-wg@w3.org
Hi Jun, On 05/25/2011 11:47 AM, Jun Zhao wrote: > Hi Luc, > > On 25/05/2011 08:45, Luc Moreau wrote: >> >> If this is the reading, then I think we should aim to be clearer in our >> own definition. > > That's partially the reason I raised the question last night. I am not > convinced that the phrase "identified by URIs" is giving anything > meaningful to the definition of Resource. It just appears to add some > unnecessary constraints. That's your comment that really made me realise this. Isn't it the case that in OPMV you can talk about a process p2 using an artifact generated by another process p1, without naming the artifact? This sentence indicate that we can identify the artifact by a sentence/query such as "a process p2 using an artifact generated by another process p1", but there is no explicit URI. > > What do we lose if we refer to a resource as "something that can be > identified"? And what do we lose if we do not say that a resource is > "anything that has provenance"? I agree. I still don't understand what the provenance of resource is. If the "container" idea for a resource is adopted, what is the provenance of the container? > > I am writing while thinking aloud... > > -- Jun Luc > >> >> Luc >> >> On 05/25/2011 07:40 AM, Graham Klyne wrote: >>> Luc Moreau wrote: >>>> Hi Graham >>>> I am coming back to an earlier comment of yours, see below. >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>> To clarify a point here. Are you saying that a resource could be >>>> anonymous (I.e, non identified)? But by the very fact we could have >>>> given it a URI, it is indeed a resource as per this definition. >>> >>> Yes, exactly that! (I prefer "non-identified" to "anonymous".) >>> >>> That's how I read and understand the AWWW/RFC3986 definitions. >>> >>> #g >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- Professor Luc Moreau Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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