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Re: PROV-ISSUE-7: trying to reach consensus on derivation (deadline: Wednesday midnight GMT)

From: Simon Miles <simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:44:41 +0100
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To: Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
+1

(as you might expect)

On 29 June 2011 08:26, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> No response to this. Can you express your support or not in the usual way?
>
> I have altered slightly the definition to take Satya's input into
> consideration
>
> PROPOSED: Derivation represents how stuff is transformed from, created from,
> or
> affected by other stuff. A thing B is derived from a thing A if the
> values of some invariant properties of B are at least partially
> determined by the values of some invariant properties of A.
>
> Regards,
> Luc
>
> On 06/27/2011 01:48 PM, Luc Moreau wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> We are now 10 days away from the F2F meeting. We should try to reach
> consensus on a few definitions.
> Last week [1], Paul suggested a definition for Derivation, and this was
> followed by a simplified
> definition by Simon [2], now on the wiki [3]. I copy the text here for your
> convenience.
>
> PROPOSED: Derivation represents how stuff is transformed from or affected by
> other stuff. A thing B is derived from a thing A if the values of some
> invariant properties of B are at least partially determined by the values of
> some invariant properties of A.
>
> We are trying to get consensus on a natural language definition for this
> concept. It may be revisited later by the team
> dealing with the formalization.
>
> Can you express your support, or alternative, for this definition? We would
> like to
> reach consensus by Wednesday midnight GMT.
>
> Best regards,
> Luc
>
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Jun/0338.html
> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Jun/0361.html
> [3]
> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ConceptDerivation#Definition_by_Simon.2C_a_revision_of_Luc.27s_above
>
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>
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> University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
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> United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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