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Re: PROV-ISSUE-8 (define-generation): Definition for Concept 'Generation' [Provenance Terminology]

From: Daniel Garijo <dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:28:27 +0200
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=gkDer-hwuKx+pR3JnfRidKNPtpw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Jun,
I have added a small comment to your definition with the proposed addition,
since the core of it is the same :)
Daniel

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> 2011/6/1 Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
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>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>>
>> On 01/06/2011 16:36, Daniel Garijo wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jun, all.
>>> I think that it refers to the generation provenance that you talk about
>>> in
>>> the last lines of your definition. Having "generation" as a concept would
>>> allow to add more metadata about when was a resource/resource
>>> state/resource state representation
>>> generated, where, etc.
>>>
>>> If we treat the generation as a property, we will have to add more
>>> properties
>>> to describe the generation of the resource (like wasGeneratedAtTime,
>>> wasGeneratedAtPlace, etc).
>>>
>>
>> That's an interesting thought. But note that in my definition of
>> generation I refer it as a relationship between a resource and a process
>> execution. Maybe you would like to propose a broader definition of
>> generation on the wiki page?
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Jun
>>
>>  Daniel
>>>
>>> 2011/5/31 Graham Klyne<GK@ninebynine.org<mailto:GK@ninebynine.org>>
>>>
>>> I agree.
>>>
>>> #g
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jun Zhao wrote:
>>> I propose Generation should be a relationship rather than a concept.
>>>
>>> See http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ConceptGeneration#Definition_by_Jun
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> Jun
>>>
>>> On 20/05/2011 08:07, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>>>
>>> PROV-ISSUE-8 (define-generation): Definition for Concept 'Generation'
>>> [Provenance Terminology]
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/8
>>>
>>> Raised by: Luc Moreau
>>> On product: Provenance Terminology
>>>
>>> The Provenance WG charter identifies the concept 'Generation' as a core
>>> concept of the provenance interchange language to be standardized (see
>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/01/prov-wg-charter).
>>>
>>> What term do we adopt for the concept 'Generation'?
>>> How do we define the concept 'Generation'?
>>> Where does concept 'Generation' appear in ProvenanceExample?
>>> Which provenance query requires the concept 'Generation'?
>>>
>>> Wiki page: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ConceptGeneration
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