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Re: PROV-ISSUE-8 (define-generation): Definition for Concept 'Generation' [Provenance Terminology]

From: Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 17:56:54 +0100
Message-ID: <4DE66F56.90709@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
To: Daniel Garijo <dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es>
CC: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Daniel,

On 01/06/2011 16:36, Daniel Garijo wrote:
> Hi Jun, all.
> I think that it refers to the generation provenance that you talk about in
> the last lines of your definition. Having "generation" as a concept would
> allow to add more metadata about when was a resource/resource state/resource state representation
> generated, where, etc.
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> If we treat the generation as a property, we will have to add more properties
> to describe the generation of the resource (like wasGeneratedAtTime, wasGeneratedAtPlace, etc).

That's an interesting thought. But note that in my definition of 
generation I refer it as a relationship between a resource and a process 
execution. Maybe you would like to propose a broader definition of 
generation on the wiki page?

cheers,

Jun

> Daniel
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> 2011/5/31 Graham Klyne<GK@ninebynine.org<mailto:GK@ninebynine.org>>
> I agree.
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> Jun Zhao wrote:
> I propose Generation should be a relationship rather than a concept.
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> See http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ConceptGeneration#Definition_by_Jun
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> cheers,
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> Jun
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> On 20/05/2011 08:07, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
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> PROV-ISSUE-8 (define-generation): Definition for Concept 'Generation' [Provenance Terminology]
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> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/8
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> Raised by: Luc Moreau
> On product: Provenance Terminology
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> The Provenance WG charter identifies the concept 'Generation' as a core concept of the provenance interchange language to be standardized (see http://www.w3.org/2011/01/prov-wg-charter).
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> What term do we adopt for the concept 'Generation'?
> How do we define the concept 'Generation'?
> Where does concept 'Generation' appear in ProvenanceExample?
> Which provenance query requires the concept 'Generation'?
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> Wiki page: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ConceptGeneration
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