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Re: PROV-ISSUE-7 (define-derivation): Definition for Concept 'Derivation' [Provenance Terminology]

From: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 07:49:10 +0100
Message-ID: <EMEW3|a7dfc442d8cb9e4faaaa0cd069118974n507nJ08L.Moreau|ecs.soton.ac.uk|4DE5E0E6.90409@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
To: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
CC: public-prov-wg@w3.org
Hi Graham,

Isn't it that you used the duri scheme to name the two resource states 
that exist in
this scenario?

In your view of the web, is there a notion of stateful resource? Does it 
apply here?

Thanks,
Luc



On 31/05/11 23:57, Graham Klyne wrote:
> Luc Moreau wrote:
>> Graham,
>>
>> In my example, I really mean for the two versions of the chart to be 
>> available at
>> the same URI. (So, definitely, an uncool URI!)
>>
>> In that case, there is a *single* resource, but it is stateful. 
>> Hence, there
>> are two *resource states*, one generated using (stats2), and the 
>> other using (stats3).
>
> Luc,
>
> I had interpreted your scenario as using a common URI as you explain.
>
> But there are still several resources here, but they are not all 
> exposed on the web or assigned URIs.  I'm appealing here to anything 
> that *might* be identified as opposed to things that actually are 
> assigned URIs.   (For example, the proposed duri: scheme might be used 
> - http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-masinter-dated-uri-07.html)
>
> (And the URI is perfectly "cool" if it is specifically intended to 
> denote a dynamic resource.  A URI used to access the current weather 
> in London can be stable if properly managed.)
>
> (I think this is all entirely consistent with my earlier stated 
> positions.)
>
> #g
> -- 
>
>> Of course, if blogger had used cool uris, then, c2s2 and c2s3 would 
>> be different resources.
>>
>> Luc
>>
>> On 05/31/2011 02:25 PM, Graham Klyne wrote:
>>> I see (at least) two resources associated with (c2):  one generated 
>>> using (stats2), and other using (stats3).  We might call these 
>>> (c2s2) and (c2s3). 
>>
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