- From: Andrea Perego <andrea.perego@jrc.ec.europa.eu>
- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:17:33 +0200
- To: pgroth@gmail.com
- Cc: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, "public-prov-comments@w3.org" <public-prov-comments@w3.org>
Thanks a lot for your feedback, Paul. Best, Andrea On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Paul Groth <pgroth@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > This is perfectly compatible with PROV-O in the sense it won't break a > validator and is acceptable within the semantics of PROV. > > It appears to me at the first instance to be a different type of role than > that defined within PROV so is fine. > > Thanks > Paul > pgroth.com > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Andrea Perego > <andrea.perego@jrc.ec.europa.eu> wrote: >> >> Thanks a lot, Luc. >> >> The context of my question concerns work on DCAT-AP [1] and GeoDCAT-AP >> [2], two DCAT-based metadata profiles, which are meant to be used as >> metadata interchange format across European data portals. >> >> One of the issues we are trying to address is about how to model roles >> of an agent wrt a catalogue or dataset, not supported in DCAT, Dublin >> Core, etc., but used in other metadata standards, as ISO 19115 and >> SDMX. >> >> One of the options under consideration is to use PROV-O, but, if >> possible, by using simpler a pattern wrt the one illustrated in >> PROV-DC for dct:creator, dct:contributor, etc. [3]. >> >> The current proposal in GeoDCAT-AP [4] is to use a qualified >> attribution, + dct:type to specify the role: >> >> [] a dcat:Dataset; >> prov:qualifiedAttribution [ a prov:Attribution ; >> dct:type a:role ; >> prov:agent a:Agent ] . >> >> The choice of dct:type was due to the fact that (a) prov:hadRole is >> not used for prov:Attribution in the PROV specs, and (b) rdf:type >> might be too "strong", since roles may not be modelled as RDFS/OWL >> classes/properties, but only as skos:Concept's. >> >> Can this be acceptable and compliant with the PROV model? If not, >> could you suggest an alternative solution? >> >> Any feedback would be very much appreciated. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Andrea >> >> ---- >> [1]https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/dcat_application_profile/ >> [2]https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/139283 >> [3]http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-dc/#entity-agent-mappings-who >> [4]https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/141757 >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> >> wrote: >> > Hello Andrea, >> > >> > The rationale for this absence is explained in our response to reviews >> > >> > >> > http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/index.php?title=ResponsesToPublicComments&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop#ISSUE-532_.28Role.29 >> > >> > I hope it helps, >> > >> > Luc >> > >> > Professor Luc Moreau >> > Electronics and Computer Science >> > University of Southampton >> > Southampton SO17 1BJ >> > United Kingdom >> > >> >> On 27 Apr 2015, at 18:32, Andrea Perego >> >> <andrea.perego@jrc.ec.europa.eu> wrote: >> >> >> >> Dear PROV WG, >> >> >> >> I'm contacting you to ask for a clarification concerning the >> >> possibility of using property prov:hadRole with prov:Attribution. >> >> >> >> The reason of my question is that, in PROV-O [1], prov:hadRole is not >> >> listed among the properties describing prov:Attribution, and the >> >> example uses a (fake) property ex:hadRole. >> >> >> >> I'm including below the relevant lines: >> >> >> >> [snip] >> >> >> >> <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Fallingwater> >> >> a prov:Entity; >> >> >> >> [snip] >> >> >> >> prov:qualifiedAttribution [ >> >> a prov:Attribution; >> >> prov:agent <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Edgar_J._Kaufmann>; >> >> ex:hadRole :owner; >> >> ]; >> >> prov:qualifiedAttribution [ >> >> a prov:Attribution; >> >> prov:agent <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Frank_Lloyd_Wright>; >> >> ex:hadRole :architect; >> >> ]; >> >> prov:qualifiedAttribution [ >> >> a prov:Attribution; >> >> prov:agent :western-Pennsylvania-Conservancy; >> >> ex:hadRole :conserver; >> >> ]; >> >> . >> >> >> >> [snip] >> >> >> >> >> >> Could you please explain? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> >> >> Andrea >> >> >> >> ---- >> >> [1]http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-o/#Attribution >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Andrea Perego, Ph.D. >> >> Scientific / Technical Project Officer >> >> European Commission DG JRC >> >> Institute for Environment & Sustainability >> >> Unit H06 - Digital Earth & Reference Data >> >> Via E. Fermi, 2749 - TP 262 >> >> 21027 Ispra VA, Italy >> >> >> >> https://ec.europa.eu/jrc/ >> >> >> >> ---- >> >> The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may >> >> not in any circumstances be regarded as stating an official >> >> position of the European Commission. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrea Perego, Ph.D. >> Scientific / Technical Project Officer >> European Commission DG JRC >> Institute for Environment & Sustainability >> Unit H06 - Digital Earth & Reference Data >> Via E. Fermi, 2749 - TP 262 >> 21027 Ispra VA, Italy >> >> https://ec.europa.eu/jrc/ >> >> ---- >> The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may >> not in any circumstances be regarded as stating an official >> position of the European Commission. >> > -- Andrea Perego, Ph.D. Scientific / Technical Project Officer European Commission DG JRC Institute for Environment & Sustainability Unit H06 - Digital Earth & Reference Data Via E. Fermi, 2749 - TP 262 21027 Ispra VA, Italy https://ec.europa.eu/jrc/ ---- The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstances be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission.
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