Re: DCAT & Provenance

Hi, Fadi.

Referring to your original email, I would like to note that, actually,
INSPIRE metadata include a free-text description of provenance (more
precisely, lineage) for datasets (not for distributions or catalogue
records). This can be seen in the metadata records currently available
through the INSPIRE Geoportal [1].

In similar cases, dct:provenance may do the job. It can always be mapped,
if need be, to PROV.

BTW, INSPIRE metadata include also provenance information about metadata
records (more precisely, metadata language, metadata point of contact, and
metadata date). It is unclear to me whether dcat:CatalogRecord can be used
for this.

Thanks!

Andrea

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[1]http://inspire-geoportal.ec.europa.eu/discovery/


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Fadi Maali <fadi.maali@deri.org> wrote:

> Thank you Jeni!
>
> typo corrected as well.
>
> Best regards,
> Fadi
> --------------------------------------------------
> Fadi Maali
> PhD student @ DERI
> Irish Research Council Embark Scholarship holder
> http://www.deri.ie/users/fadi-maali
>
> On 30 May 2013, at 13:32, Jeni Tennison <jeni@theodi.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Fadi,
> >
> > (Per process) OK, that's fine.
> >
> > s/particualr/particular/
> >
> > Jeni
> >
> > On 30 May 2013, at 12:13, Fadi Maali <fadi.maali@deri.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Jeni and Paul,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your feedback regarding representing provenance in DCAT.
> >>
> >> DCAT properties were based on a survey of existing government catalogs.
> At the time of the survey, catalogs didn't include provenance description.
> >> I totally agree that including a provenance description is very
> valuable. However, in the favour of keeping DCAT minimal and focused, I
> suggest that
> >> instead of adding properties from PROV to the DCAT spec, a link to
> PROV-O ontology is added as currently implemented in the draft (Catalog
> record section):
> >>
> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html#Class:_Catalog_record
> >>
> >> I hope that is sufficient.
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> Fadi Maali
> >> PhD student @ DERI
> >> Irish Research Council Embark Scholarship holder
> >> http://www.deri.ie/users/fadi-maali
> >>
> >> On 3 Apr 2013, at 19:25, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Jeni
> >>>
> >>> +1 for this. From the PROV perspective we are actual ok with both. In
> our mapping to from dublin core to PROV dct:provenance maps to
> prov:has_provenance.
> >>>
> >>> It would be nice to encourage people to use PROV in the DCAT document
> though for describing provenance.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Jeni Tennison <jeni@theodi.org> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Looking through DCAT, I notice that there's no property that is
> recommended for indicating the provenance of a Distribution or
> CatalogRecord.
> >>>
> >>> Would it be appropriate to include prov:has_provenance as a property
> of dcat:Distribution and dcat:CatalogRecord, to point to a provenance
> record? Or dct:provenance to fit in with the other properties.
> >>>
> >>> (I guess one source of my question is that I'm not sure what the
> rationale is in deciding whether a property is included in DCAT or not.)
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Jeni
> >>> --
> >>> Jeni Tennison, Technical Director   theODI.org
> >>> +44 (0) 7974 420 482                @JeniT
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
> >>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/
> >>> Assistant Professor
> >>> - Web & Media Group | Department of Computer Science
> >>> - The Network Institute
> >>> VU University Amsterdam
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jeni Tennison, Technical Director   theODI.org
> > +44 (0) 7974 420 482                @JeniT
> >
>
>
>


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