Notes: PEWG call 2014-Sep-23

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# Minutes
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ScribeNick: ArtB
Scribe: ArtB
Meeting: Pointer Events WG Voice Conference
Agenda: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014JulSep/0130.html
Chair: ArtB

Present: Art_Barstow, Doug_Schepers,
    # Mozilla: Matt_Brubeck, Olli_Pettay,
    # Nokia: Art_Barstow, Cathy_Chan
    # Opera: Sangwhan_Moon
    # jQuery: Scott_González
    # Google: Rick_Byers, Peter_Beverloo, Alex_Russell
    # Microsoft: Jacob_Rossi, Asir_Vedamuthu ("ah-sir")
    # Patrick_Lauke

Regrets: Olli_Pettay

*Topic: Tweak and agree on agenda *
AB: I posted a draft agenda yesterday 
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014JulSep/0130.html>. 


AB: Since then, Bug-26888 (Add "pointerleave" to "9.1 The touch-action 
CSS property") was submitted so I propose we add that bug to the agenda 
<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26888>.

AB: any objections to that addition?
[ None ]

AB: we also now have PR-1249 (PointerEvents Test Assertions 15.11, 
15.18-15.20) so I propose we discuss that during our Pull Request topic 
and drop the related item from agenda topic #4.

AB: any objections to that change?
[ None ]

AB: any other agenda change requests?

2. Open PRs: plans and status

*Topic: PR-1121; SVG touch-action tests*
AB: PR-1121 <https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1121> was 
blocked on Doug's Action-116 
https://www.w3.org/2012/pointerevents/track/actions/116
AB: Doug replied today and completed his action.
AB: having seen no objections to the PR itself, I propose someone merge 
this PR. Any objections to that?

ACTION: Jacob merge PR-1121

*Topic: PR-1220; Assertions 4.3 and 5.3*
AB: PR-1220 <https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1220>. Is 
this blocked on a review by someone other than Microsoft?
AB: there is also Action-122 "Follow up with Artem re pr-1220" on Jacob 
; <https://www.w3.org/2012/pointerevents/track/actions/122> . Jacob - it 
appears this can now be closed, is that correct?

ACTION: @TBD review PR-1220 and merge if it is OK
ACTION: Jacob close Action-122

*Topic: PR-1245; Properly check for async events related to capture*
AB: PR-1245 <https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1245>; it 
appears this PR addresses Action-126 
<https://www.w3.org/2012/pointerevents/track/actions/126>. Need someone 
to review this PR. Volunteer, please?

ACTION: @TBD review PR-1245

*Topic: PR-1249**; **PointerEvents Test Assertions 15.11, 15.18-15.20*
AB: yesterday Jacob submitted PR-1249 and it adds tests for assertions 
15.{11,18-20} <https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1249>. We 
need someone to review this PR and merge it if it is OK. Would someone 
please volunteer review this PR?

ACTION: @TBD review PR-1249

3. Open Actions

*Topic: Open Actions*
AB: Action-119; Review the test for 15.20 when it is available and let 
us know if it covers the high priority manipulation scenarios; Cathy; 
<https://www.w3.org/2012/pointerevents/track/actions/119> ; now that we 
have PR-1249, Cathy please review this.

AB: Action-124; Create tests for assertions 11.3 and 13.4 ; Scott ; 
<https://www.w3.org/2012/pointerevents/track/actions/124>
AB: Scott - what is the ETA for these tests?


*Topic: Bug 26809;  IE11 on Win8.1 fires a click event after pointer has 
moved when element has touch-event: none*
AB: Bug-26809 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26809> has 
had some comments including Patrick's followup on the list on Sept 15 
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014JulSep/0125.html> 

AB: kinda feels like we might just need to make a few non-normative 
tweaks to the spec

ACTION:
RESOLUTION:


*Topic: Bug 26888 (Add "pointerleave" to "9.1 The touch-action CSS 
property") *
AB: Jacob created this bug yesterday 
<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26888>. The bug includes 
an explicit change proposal. Any comments?
AB: seems to be related to discussion around Bug-26809

ACTION:
RESOLUTION:


*Topic: Amazing set/releasePointerCapture*
AB: Maksim Lebedev submitted this e-mail on Sept 12; 
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014JulSep/0118.html> 
and there has been no followup.

ACTION: @ reply to "Amazing set/releasePointerCapture" thread


*Topic: Plan to move Pointer Events back to LC and then Proposed 
Recommendation *
AB: as previously agreed, our Plan of Record (PoR) is essentially to 
first: fix all spec bugs; complete the test suite; run interop testing; 
update specs and or implementations accordingly. Second, when we have 
two or more independent implementations that pass all test cases:  
publish a LCWD and assuming there are no substantive comments during the 
3-week LC comment period, we propose to the Director publishing a 
Proposed Recommendation (and thus not publish an explicit Candidate 
Recommendation).

AB: although we have had a number of developments since we agreed to 
this PoR, I don't believe there have been any substantive "new 
info/data" to change that plan.

AB: any comments on this, and/or agreement with the above PoR?

AB: one additional task I think we should add is to do a short-ish 
(f.ex. 1-2 week) "pre LC Request for Comments" and target specific 
people and/or groups such as Anne van Kesteren, public-script-coord, 
www-dom, TAG.


*Topic: **AoB *
AB: as is SOP for this group, if it appears a call would be helpful next 
week, I'll send a draft agenda at least a day in advance; otherwise 
there will be no call and I'll make such an announcement.

AB: anything else for today?

Received on Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:16:22 UTC