RE: Geolocation Last Call

I agree, strongly.  The lack of sophistication in thinking around location
based services & privacy is sometimes breathtaking.  It is neither 'anything
goes' nor 'never disclose'.  It has to be much more nuanced than that.  A
person on the lookout for a chance date is in a vastly different position
from the person who is the secret negotiator going to the secret meeting to
lock down the multi-million dollar deal.  AND the technology is NEVER going
to be able to tell the difference, especially because it could in fact be
the same person at different times in the same day.

And that is before we bring in policing, national security and emergency
rescue...

Informed, easy to use control with the right default settings (just ask the
behavioural economists et al) is going to be the only solution.

Regards

Malcolm Crompton

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-----Original Message-----
From: public-pling-request@w3.org [mailto:public-pling-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of ashok malhotra
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:25 AM
To: Renato Iannella
Cc: public-pling@w3.org
Subject: Re: Geolocation Last Call

I, too, was worried when I read Section 4.  It punts all the privacy 
APIs to the implementations.
All the best, Ashok


Renato Iannella wrote:
> After reading Section 4 of the Working Draft [1], I am more worried 
> than before.
>
> It does not engender any confidence, even by using the term 
> "consideration", for the safety and awareness of the end user's privacy.
>
> Perhaps we now need a PLING Note on "Best Practices for Privacy 
> Awareness" ?
>
>
> Renato
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/
>
>
> On 8 Jul 2009, at 23:09, Thomas Roessler wrote:
>
>> No explicit request for review by PLING, but I think it would be fine 
>> for this IG to tell them that you want to do a review -- if that is 
>> indeed the case.
>> --
>> Thomas Roessler, W3C  <tlr@w3.org <mailto:tlr@w3.org>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> *From: *Angel Machín <angel.machin@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:angel.machin@gmail.com>>
>>> *Date: *8 July 2009 14:58:29 CEDT
>>> *To: *janina@rednote.net <mailto:janina@rednote.net>, 
>>> art.barstow@nokia.com <mailto:art.barstow@nokia.com>, 
>>> chaals@opera.com <mailto:chaals@opera.com>,  
>>> Mary_Ellen_Zurko@notesdev.ibm.com 
>>> <mailto:Mary_Ellen_Zurko@notesdev.ibm.com>, tlr@w3.org 
>>> <mailto:tlr@w3.org>, dom@w3.org <mailto:dom@w3.org>, dsr@w3.org 
>>> <mailto:dsr@w3.org>,  chris@w3.org <mailto:chris@w3.org>, 
>>> daniel.appelquist@vodafone.com 
>>> <mailto:daniel.appelquist@vodafone.com>,  
>>> dahl@conversational-technologies.com 
>>> <mailto:dahl@conversational-technologies.com>, rbarnes@bbn.com 
>>> <mailto:rbarnes@bbn.com>, acooper@cdt.org <mailto:acooper@cdt.org>,  
>>> bondi@omtp.org <mailto:bondi@omtp.org>, jferrai@us.ibm.com 
>>> <mailto:jferrai@us.ibm.com>, Lars Erik Bolstad <lbolstad@opera.com 
>>> <mailto:lbolstad@opera.com>>,  Matt Womer <mdw@w3.org 
>>> <mailto:mdw@w3.org>>, chairs@w3.org <mailto:chairs@w3.org>
>>> *Subject: **Geolocation Last Call*
>>>
>>> Hello Chairs,
>>>
>>> On behalf of Lars Erik Bolstad, the other co-chair of this WG, and I:
>>>
>>> The Geolocation Working Group has published the Geolocation API
>>> Specification as a Last Call Working Draft on 7 July 2009:
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/
>>>
>>> Feedback on this document would be appreciated through 31 July 2009
>>> via mail to public-geolocation@w3.org 
>>> <mailto:public-geolocation@w3.org>.
>>>
>>> In particular we are requesting review from the Web Application WG,
>>> Device APIs, Web Security Context, Ubiquitous Web Applications, Mobile
>>> Web Best Practices, Hypertext Coordination, Protocols and Formats
>>> Working Group and also GEOPRIV, BONDI and OpenAJAX Alliance.
>>>
>>> The Group made the decision to go to Last Call:
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-geolocation/2009Jun/0161.html
>>>
>>> No patent disclosures have been made for this specification.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Angel Machin
>>> Geolocation WG co-Chair
>>>
>>
>
> Cheers...  Renato Iannella
> NICTA
>

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