Re: [ARIA] Table and cell roles have been added to the spec.

Thanks. Okay, so not invalid to keep as table. But the spec does suggest such a sortable table *should* be a grid, doesn’t it? At least that’s how I read it where it states that in the case where a table "allows the user to rearrange or otherwise manipulate its contents or the display thereof, authors SHOULD use grid <https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#grid> or treegrid <https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#treegrid> instead.” 

Is it just me?


Jason Kiss
jason@accessibleculture.org
http://www.accessibleculture.org




> On 16/06/2015, at 9:39 am, Matthew King <mattking@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> It is not necessary to make a sortable table into an interactive read-only grid where the entire grid is navigable with arrow keys.
> It is just as valid to leave it as a static table where each header is a tab stop.
> 
> Matt King
> IBM Senior Technical Staff Member
> I/T Chief Accessibility Strategist
> IBM BT/CIO - Global Workforce and Web Process Enablement 
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> mattking@us.ibm.com
> 
> 
> 
> From:        Jason Kiss <jason@accessibleculture.org>
> To:        Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com>, 
> Cc:        "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <public-pfwg@w3.org>
> Date:        06/14/2015 07:48 PM
> Subject:        Re: [ARIA] Table and cell roles have been added to the spec.
> 
> 
> 
> Based on the definition of the table role, I'd just like to confirm
> that a simple, otherwise static table that can be reordered by column
> (e.g. via links in or on the column headers) effectively becomes an
> interactive grid, and so should rightly use role="grid", if that role
> is not already exposed somehow by the browser? Does that sound right?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jason
> 
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com> wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > As per yesterday's meeting [1], I have merged the table and cell roles
> > into the spec. I will propose clarifying text to address the readonly
> > and required properties being inherited by columnheader and rowheader as
> > per action-1646 [2]. Lastly, I'll create a branch with some
> > mostly-editorial changes for the grid-related content in the spec,
> > probably some time next week.
> >
> > The new roles can be found here:
> > https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#cell <https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#cell>
> > https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#table <https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#table>
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > [1] http://www.w3.org/2015/06/04-aria-minutes.html#item01 <http://www.w3.org/2015/06/04-aria-minutes.html#item01>
> > [2] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1646 <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1646>
> >
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