RE: Agenda: April 9, 2015 WAI-PF ARIA Caucus (revised to include DPUB WAI-ARIA Module for FPWD Vote)

I will likely be 20-30 minutes late for this call

From: Richard Schwerdtfeger [mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 7:29 AM
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Cc: Matt Garrish; Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
Subject: Agenda: April 9, 2015 WAI-PF ARIA Caucus (revised to include DPUB WAI-ARIA Module for FPWD Vote)


Agenda: April 9, 2015 WAI-PF ARIA Caucus

Time of meeting is 12:30PM EST, 9:30AM PST, 16:30 UTC, duration is 1.5 hours
Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200, conference 2742 ("ARIA")
IRC: server: irc.w3.org, port: 6665, channel: #aria.

- Identify Scribe

- Heads Up Items:

* No follow-on aria-describedat discussion yet. We need to get the publishers to the table.

- Vote to move the Digital Publishing WAI-ARIA Module to First Public Working Draft ahead of main PF Call next week
  - http://w3c.github.io/aria/aria/dpub.html

- Action 1349 Patch issue-561: we need @aria-placeholder as backup for @placeholder in custom fields.
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1349
- placeholder branch: http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action-1349/aria/aria.html#aria-placeholder
- last post (at the time of this agenda): https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Apr/0086.html

Here is the precedence from HTML mapping spec:
Use aria-labelledby
   Otherwise use aria-label
   Otherwise use the associated label element
   Otherwise use the placeholder attribute
   Otherwise use the title attribute
   If none of the above yield a usable text string there is no accessible name



- Review Table Branch (Actions 1395, 1293, 1403; issue 423)  Joanie Diggs
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Mar/0132.html
   - Why aria-rowcount was not confined to the table/grid: http://www.w3.org/2015/03/19-aria-minutes.html
      - Summary: We want ATs to not have to go back to the containing Grid/table. For older IE browsers ATs only access content from the DOM
      - Treegrids expand rows increasing row count. ... Again would need to go back to the container
      - The net, net: If we don't want to support older IE versions (US Federal, banking, state governments) then we can limit supporting the row count to the containing grid/table
        It will be up to the user agent to propagate the row count down to either the cell or row level. Group needs to decide. Will need to put ATVs on notice - Go to AAPIs or performance
        will be impacted. Also, will there be an event notification of changes in row count?



- Review Open Action Items and Issues (Many overdue items - need to get new dates and determine if must reassign)  Start with action 1490 in the list
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/17


References:

ARIA Test Plan Action Items:
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/5

UAIG Open Actions and Issues:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10

ARIA Test Report:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testreport?testsuite_id=1

Use Cases for Extended Descriptions:
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Use_Cases_for_Extended_Descriptions

Minutes Last Meeting:
http://www.w3.org/2015/04/02-aria-minutes.html



Rich Schwerdtfeger