Minutes Sept 8, 2014 WAI PF ARIA Caucus

Draft minutes are posted: http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html 

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Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
08 Sep 2014
See also: IRC log
Attendees
Present
Regrets
Chair
Rich
Scribe
Susann_Keohane
Contents
Topics 
1.      633
2.      Splitting out Name and Description into separate document (To 
cover SVG2 and HTML5)
3.      open action and issues
Summary of Action Items

<trackbot> Date: 08 September 2014
<richardschwerdtfeger> Meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus
<richardschwerdtfeger> chair: Rich
<richardschwerdtfeger> 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Sep/0031.html
<MichaelC> https://w3c.github.io/wcag/coga/gap-analysis.html
<richardschwerdtfeger> scribeNick: Susann_Keohane
<clown> issue-633?
<trackbot> issue-633 -- listbox and tree may contain only static items; 
badly need interactive widgets that can contain interactive typed items -- 
raised
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/633
633
Matt: create a role like list_view to basically create a list of any 
interactive elements from articles, search results, list of checkboxes, 
links
... anything to interactive with and navigate
Rich: not select but navigate (arrow key navigation)
<jcraig> topic?
<Stefan> +q
MAtt: current listbox is limited to static element
<Stefan> +q
Rich: what if there was a subclass something like group, a list navigable 
group
<richardschwerdtfeger> ACTION: Matt Create proposal for a role and 
strategy to address Issue 633 [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Error finding 'Matt'. You can review and register nicknames at 
<https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
<richardschwerdtfeger> ACTION: mattking Create proposal for a role and 
strategy to address Issue 633 [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1505 - Create proposal for a role and strategy 
to address issue 633 [on Matthew King - due 2014-09-15].
<Stefan> -q
jamesn: make it generic enough to support all type sof widgets
cynthia: may want to look at UIA patterns
<clown> 
http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/implementation/aria-implementation.html#mapping_additional_nd
Splitting out Name and Description into separate document (To cover SVG2 
and HTML5)
rich: svg and html are becoming more aligned
jamesn: agrees it should be broken out but should point to a list of the 
host language
rich: appears to be consensus for this topic
RESOLUTION: break out the name and description into a separate spec and 
Joseph to be editor
jamesn- so sorry, I'm not sure how to fix it
jamesn - I do not.
<clown> Accessible Name and Description Computation.
<clown> Accessible Name and Description Mapping Computation
<clown> Name and Description Accessibility Mapping ?
MichaelC: pick a placeholder name for the short term
... when we approach publication pick a proper name
rich: we want to make sure there are no charter issues before publications
... for ARIA 1.1 are we only testing for HTML?
MichaelC: how we cross ref the normative ref could impact what we have to 
test
... separation allows for sequestering testing
<richardschwerdtfeger> ACTION: Joseph create editors draft of 
name/description computation document in github [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1506 - Create editors draft of name/description 
computation document in github [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due 2014-09-15].
open action and issues
<clown> action-1073?
<trackbot> action-1073 -- Matthew King to Update aria-selected to reflect 
that it communicates selectability and clarify responsibility for ensuring 
aria-selected=false is on selectable elements -- due 2012-06-11 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1073
<clown> action-1346?
<trackbot> action-1346 -- Matthew King to Propose edit to dialog role to 
clarify issue that leads to bad implementation -- due 2014-01-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1346
<clown> action-1151?
<trackbot> action-1151 -- Michael Cooper to Create a flowchart or process 
diagram of the ARIA accessible name computation -- due 2014-09-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1151
<clown> action-1322?
<trackbot> action-1322 -- Jon Gunderson to Make some examples for 
aria-hidden="false" (including a hidden live region) -- due 2013-12-23 -- 
OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1322
<clown> action-1335?
<trackbot> action-1335 -- James Craig to Propose edit for issue-493 to 
explicitly disallow strings matching "" or "undefined" in this sentence: 
content authors must provide values for required states and properties. -- 
due 2014-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1335
<clown> action-1338?
<trackbot> action-1338 -- Michael Cooper to Patch issue-504: Remove 
aria-checked from radio role in spec and taxonomy -- due 2014-01-30 -- 
OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1338
<MichaelC> action-1352 due 20 Oct
<trackbot> Set action-1352 Patch issue-576: add aria-posinset, and 
aria-setsize to tab role due date to 2014-10-20.
<clown> action-1341?
<trackbot> action-1341 -- James Craig to Patch issue-514: treegrid and 
grid propagation requirement should be normative. -- due 2014-01-30 -- 
PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1341
<MichaelC> action-1429 due 20 Oct
<trackbot> Set action-1429 Add aria-orientation to additional aria roles 
in taxonomy graph (ISSUE-579) due date to 2014-10-20.
<jcraig> action-1341
<trackbot> action-1341 -- James Craig to Patch issue-514: treegrid and 
grid propagation requirement should be normative. -- due 2014-01-30 -- 
PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1341
<clown> action-1504?
<trackbot> action-1504 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Core-AAM mappings of 
aria-readonly="true" when propagated to gridcell. -- due 2014-09-16 -- 
PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1504
<clown> AXValue (not writable)
<jcraig> issue-514
<trackbot> issue-514 -- #treegrid has normative-like statement with no 
normative requirements: "The value of the treegrid element's aria-readonly 
attribute is implicitly propagated to all of its owned gridcell elements, 
and will be exposed through the accessibility API." -- open
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/514
<jcraig> close action-1341
<trackbot> Closed action-1341.
RESOLUTION: action 1431 is completed and closed
<clown> 
http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/implementation/aria-implementation.html#ariaReadonlyTrue
<clown> Set Value.IsReadOnly="true"
<clown> Note, the above is for UIA.
RESOLUTION: close issue 514
<jcraig> close issue-514
<trackbot> Closed issue-514.
<clown> action-1342?
<trackbot> action-1342 -- James Craig to Patch issue-523: 
searchbox/searchfield role which is a subrole of textbox/textfield -- due 
2014-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1342
<clown> action-1345?
<trackbot> action-1345 -- James Craig to Propose an edit issue-545 
resolving live region changes to dom vs a11y tree -- due 2014-01-30 -- 
OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1345
<jcraig> action-1345
<trackbot> action-1345 -- James Craig to Propose an edit issue-545 
resolving live region changes to dom vs a11y tree -- due 2014-01-30 -- 
OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1345
<clown> action-1347?
<trackbot> action-1347 -- James Craig to Add an attribute for 
differentiating modal vs non-modal dialogs/menus/etc. (possibly 
aria-modal) -- due 2014-01-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1347
<clown> action-1349
<trackbot> action-1349 -- James Craig to Patch issue-561: we need 
@aria-placeholder as backup for @placeholder in custom fields. -- due 
2014-01-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1349
<clown> aciton-1352
<clown> action-1352
<trackbot> action-1352 -- Michael Cooper to Patch issue-576: add 
aria-posinset, and aria-setsize to tab role -- due 2014-10-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1352
<clown> action-1355
<trackbot> action-1355 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Propose specific edit 
for issue-588: clarify rowheader and columnheader selection -- due 
2014-01-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1355
rssagent, draft minutes
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Joseph create editors draft of name/description computation 
document in github [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Matt Create proposal for a role and strategy to address 
Issue 633 [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: mattking Create proposal for a role and strategy to address 
Issue 633 [recorded in 
http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action02]
 
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