Re: elements with presentational content

Doesn't this already do what you want without an additional attribute?

<div role="button">
  Non-presentational content (exposed to API)
</div>

<div role="button" aria-label="Non-presentational content (exposed to API)">
  Presentational content (not exposed to API)
</div>


On May 29, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd say accessible name should be calculated from content in this case similar to aria-labelledby pointing to hidden content. But is it principal question?
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:40 PM, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com> wrote:
> Are you saying the following would result in a button with no label, despite the rendered text?
> 
>> <div role="button" aria-leaf="true">
>>   This text is not exposed to APIs. Use an explicit aria-label?
>> </div>
>> 
>> On May 28, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. Lately I run into examples of widgets having presentational content as part of their implementation and that content is exposed to AT which is unfortunate. For example a custom button
>>> 
>>> <div role="button">
>>>   Presentational content
>>> </div>
>>> 
>>> UAIG guide suggests [1] to exclude the content from the tree under certain elements aka "Children of objects which have the characteristic "Children Presentational: True":". It's not clear with me what "Children Presentational" is and that's the first issue. The second one the requirement prevents the author to create menu buttons like:
>>> 
>>> <div role="button">Button
>>>   <div role="button">menu button</div>
>>> </div>
>>> 
>>> (check out XUL example [2]).
>>> 
>>> So the trick the author could do is to apply aria-hidden="true" on some internal container
>>> <div role="button">
>>>   <div aria-hidden="true">
>>>     Presentational content
>>>   </div>
>>> </div>
>>> 
>>> Regardless the author have to introduce extra element in the hierarchy what is not nice, this approach requires all browsers get agreed on aria-hidden implementation.
>>> 
>>> Would it be good to introduce new attribute to let the author cut off the content, for example
>>> <div role="button" aria-leaf="true">
>>> 
>>> and can be defined as the browser should not expose any children for element having aria-leaf="true" if the content serves the presentational propose (like not focusable, not operable).
>>> 
>>> Alternative names: aria-nocontent, aria-nokids.
>>> 
>>> Would it be worth to have an extra attribute for that?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Alexander.
>>> 
>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#exclude_elements2
>>> [2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/XUL/PopupGuide/MenuButtons#The_%27menu-button%27_button
>> 
>> 
> 

Received on Thursday, 29 May 2014 18:54:52 UTC