Re: Fwd: ARIA 1.1 heartbeat ready

I don't find the aria-orientation to be significant but I am not adverse to
calling it out. However, due to the use of AJAX applications the need for
posinset and setsize on tabs is critical. This would impact a lot of IBM
products for example as well as UI component libraries.

The none role is also important if we want user agents to start
implementing so that authors can make the switch.

These should not be buried in a change log.

Regarding look at - I mean after this draft it should be addressed soon.


Rich Schwerdtfeger



From: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
Date: 06/11/2014 04:18 PM
Subject: Fwd: ARIA 1.1 heartbeat ready





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      From: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
      Subject: Re: ARIA 1.1 heartbeat ready
      Date: June 1, 2014 at 12:35:52 PM PDT
      To: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
      Cc: "cooper@w3.org" <cooper@w3.org>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <
      public-pfwg@w3.org>

      For clarity, please include the name of each section. The numbers are
      generated so they change from time to time.

      More comments inline.

      On Jun 1, 2014, at 4:09 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
      wrote:



            Thanks James!

            Some comments:

            1. The role of "none" should be linked to in section 5.3.3
            2. Under status of this document:
             - The abstract should mention that ARA 1.1 also adds new
            features to be used by SVG2.
             - The third and fourth paragraph should be modified. This is
            not the first public working draft and aria-describedby is not
            new in this draft
             - The significant change in this release should be
            introduction to the role "none", the addition of setsize and
            posinset to tab, and the addition of orientation to more roles.


      I’m not any of those count as significant, and they are already
      listed in the changelog.


             - The third paragraph mentions aria-describedat as the major
            new feature.  The change for aria-orientation is significant.
            This is not the first public working draft


      Michael changes the intro section prior to publishing.


            3. Looking at section 5, we are still making use of RDF in this
            document. We should think about removing references to it for
            broader public viewing.
            4. Section 5.4 Definition of roles
             - For the grid role, grid should not be in red.
             - Under checkbox the vales should not be red.
             - Please took at all the text that is red.


      Does “took at” mean “look at” or “take out”? If take out, the
      editorial comments will be removed once they are addressed.



            5. Base concepts link to HTML4 semantics. We should either
            remove the Base Concept or link to HMTL5 for the base concepts
            6. In the references:
              - For SVG we should reference SVG2:
            http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG2/

            7. Under section E.1 we should update the active participants
            list if for no other reason than to add the new members that
            joined after ARIA 1.0 went to recommendation. For example, I
            don't see Brian and Alex. Michael, would you please provide an
            updated list.

            ... note: Andi can be removed as she has retired and is no
            longer a member of PF.


            Rich

            Rich Schwerdtfeger

            <graycol.gif>James Craig ---05/28/2014 08:25:40 PM---Thought I
            already sent this, but not seeing it in my outbox. I put in a
            placeholder for the "none" r

            From: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
            To: W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <public-pfwg@w3.org>
            Date: 05/28/2014 08:25 PM
            Subject: ARIA 1.1 heartbeat ready





            Thought I already sent this, but not seeing it in my outbox.

            I put in a placeholder for the "none" role (plus some editorial
            notes) for Rich. The rest of the changes were various errata.
            See the #changelog at the bottom. Note that the ReSpec
            transforms take about 5 or 10 seconds on this spec so wait a
            few seconds for the redraw after loading.

            http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/spec/aria.html