Re: ISSUE-636 ACTION-1398 Provide spec. text for aria-roledescription

Yeah. I agree.  But I always spell labeled wrong ;-)


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:52 PM, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com> wrote:

> On Apr 4, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com> wrote:
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> I sort of like the idea of aliasing for ease of authoring.
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>
> I'm 100% opposed to aliases for these. It may make 1 thing easier, but it
> makes 100 more problems.
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> There's no good way to reconcile aliased attributes. What's the label
> IDREF for this element? Foo? Bar? Both?
> <div aria-labelledby="foo" aria-labeledby="bar">
>
> What about this usage?
> <div aria-labeledby="bar">
> element.getAttribute("aria-labelledby"); // Correctly returns undefined.
> Forcing this to return the value of a different attribute would break the
> DOM.
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>
> On the other hand, permitting illegal junk in markup is why the web is so
> screwed up.
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>
> Agreed. Let's try to avoid any more screwage.
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> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Charles McCathie Nevile <
> chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
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>> On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 23:51:30 +0200, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com> wrote:
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>>  On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
>>>
>>
>>  The suggested spec text includes (my emphasis) " ...Provides a human
>>>> readable, *localized* string name for the role of the element."  I'm not
>>>> entirely sure what W3C English spelling policy is -- American only,
>>>> Commonwealth only, or a mixture.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think it's fine to have the term used in prose with either spelling...
>>> Editor's choice if the W3C style guide does not specify.
>>>
>>
>> W3C policy for prose is to use US English in all its official text.
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>>
>>  To avoid that issue, use l7d.  Then again, maybe the official policy is
>>>> that kind of acronym is not allowed either.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In spec prose, either spelling is preferable to the abbreviation for the
>>> sake of clarity.
>>>
>>> In an attribute name or value token, my opinion is that neither spelling
>>> nor the abbreviation is acceptable due to web author confusion with
>>> spelling or clarity of meaning.
>>>
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> Explaining to developers who have know a limited amount of english which
>> spelling variant they have to use is a recipe for mistakes. Either alias
>> the two variants, or choose something easier to get right.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Chaals
>>
>> --
>> Charles McCathie Nevile - Consultant (web standards) CTO Office, Yandex
>>         chaals@yandex-team.ru         Find more at http://yandex.com
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