Re: ARIA Feedback

Hi Martin,

I'm currently in the middle of overhauling the document for typos,  
spelling, tonal, and grammar mistakes, so your list is much  
appreciated. The attributes module does appear to be well out-of-date,  
and I have it marked as a todo. I'll go through each of the items and  
either fix them as specified, or include you on the discussion.

The removal of tabindex seems to be a mistake. I'll go back in the  
source and try to find out when/why it went missing.

Regarding hosting the DTD, that is the intention, but as this is a  
draft, it would be inappropriate for the W3C to host a changing  
version of a document intended for machine-readability. That step in  
the process will come later.

Thanks for your feedback, it's much appreciated.
James


On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Martin Kliehm wrote:

> Dear PFWG,
>
> a had a little time to take a look at the current ARIA working  
> draft, and I found three issues I'd like to comment on:
>
>
> 1. Errors in the ARIA Attributes Module
>
> a) There is a minor spelling error in the document description,  
> "Rick Internat" instead of "Rich Internet".
>
> b) The system identifier still contains the historic term "aaa" -  
> shouldn't that be updated to "aria" instead?
>
> c) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think "undefined" is missing in  
> the allowed values for aria-checked:
>
>   Current definition:
>   aria-checked ( true | false | mixed ) 'undefined'
>
>   Correct definition:
>   aria-checked ( true | false | mixed | undefined ) 'undefined'
>
> d) "spelling" and "grammar" are both missing in aria-invalid:
>
>   Current definition:
>   aria-invalid ( true | false ) 'false'
>
>   Correct definition:
>   aria-invalid ( true | false | grammar | spelling ) 'false'
>
>
> 2. The description of "tabindex" is missing in the current version. 
> [1] In the previous version[2] "tabindex" was still listed as a  
> global property. The only change should have been that "tabindex" is  
> now a global attribute indeed that is not limited certain elements  
> (BTW, thanks for picking up my earlier suggestion).
>
> Speaking about "tabindex", I'm not familiar with the IE8 DOM  
> implementation yet, but IE6 and IE7 implemented it as "tabIndex"  
> while all other browsers use "tabindex" in DOM scripting. It would  
> be convenient if Microsoft could agree to accept "tabindex" in the  
> future.
>
>
> 3. Sample DTD
>
> The sample DTD is great, although I still believe it's too much to  
> ask an author to create a DTD file and serve it with the correct  
> mime type from his own server. From the example I thought I could  
> just use the URI http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-aria-1.dtd as a  
> system identifier, but it throws a 404 error. Therefore I would like  
> to suggest hosting the DTD file on the usual W3C server. That would  
> be more convenient for authors, as a side effect browsers could  
> recognize the DTD as one of the known DTDs for mode switching and  
> accepting non-numerical HTML entities when the page is served with a  
> XHTML mime type.
>
>
> That said I would like to congratulate on the ARIA Best Practices  
> document! Recently I had to create a tablist navigation, and  
> although a few key combinations can't be captured or prevented from  
> bubbling in some browsers (ctrl-PageDown / PageUp in Firefox, ctrl- 
> Tab / ctrl-Shift-Tab in IE), the list of interactive keys was really  
> helpful. I'm sure I would have overlooked some keys or implemented a  
> different behavior without the list. So thanks again!
>
> Cheers,
>  Martin
>
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-wai-aria-20080806/#global_states
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-wai-aria-20080204/#global_states
>    http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-wai-aria-20080204/#tabindex
>
> -- 
> Martin Kliehm
> Senior Frontend Engineer
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