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Re: Thanks! Re: Runnable suggestion of ARIA in HTML5 document conformance integration

From: Aaron M Leventhal <aleventh@us.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:51:57 -0400
To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
Cc: Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org>, public-pfwg-comments@w3.org, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Message-ID: <OFEBC41BC8.11EDB746-ON8525741E.00571CBC-8525741E.00574B6C@us.ibm.com>
Well, irrelevant could easily mean grayed out (disabled). That would make 
since that's how relevant works in XForms.

- Aaron






Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> 
04/01/2008 11:35 AM

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Re: Thanks! Re: Runnable suggestion of ARIA in HTML5 document conformance 
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On Apr 1, 2008, at 17:26, Aaron M Leventhal wrote:
> > * The live region states and properties are used without an explicit
> > role on span. Perhaps it would make sense to move the live region
> > states and properties to global states and properties.
> Totally agree. Anything can be live. I believe the current internal 
> draft has that as a feature:
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/aria/

It seems that Member-only areas of w3.org aren't working for me today. 
Anyway, before this access control glitch, I chose not to implement 
according to the Member-only draft in order to avoid leaking secrets 
in the public source code of Validator.nu. It would be nice if the 
Editor's Drafts were public.

> > * Of the states and properties I opted not to support in this draft,
> > aria-hidden is actually used by the demos. Is it too late for
> > irrelevant? On the other hand, the other states and properties that
> Why not have HTML 5 use hidden? It's more obvious what it ,means. 
> Irrelevant just sounds like the opposite of relevant from XForms, 
> which definitely does not mean hidden -- it just means enabled.

'irrelevant' is a semantic fig leaf since 'hidden' is supposedly 
presentational. I would prefer calling it 'hidden'. Also, others have 
complained that 'irrelevant' is counter-intuitive and allegedly hard 
to spell for native English writers.

-- 
Henri Sivonen
hsivonen@iki.fi
http://hsivonen.iki.fi/
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