Re: copy-write question

+1 to using both.

JF

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 1:39 PM Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:

> Michael, All:
>
> I think archiving Russell's email is good, but I actually like his
> proposed URI for use in the W3C normative document.
>
> Any reason we can't do both?
>
> Best,
>
> Janina
>
> Russell writes:
> > Hi Lisa,
> >
> > Yes, we agree that the reference numbers can be used in keeping with the
> w3c
> > patent policy. If attribution can be made in the document, that would be
> > great, otherwise I guess we can include it at the license url.
> >
> > For a stable url, would something like
> http://blissymbolics.org/w3c-license
> > <http://blissymbolics.org/index.php/licensing> work? Have I understood
> you
> > correctly?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Russell
> >
> > On 2019-08-22 11:18 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote:
> > > Hi Russell
> > > What time frame do you think it will take to get a decisions if we can
> > > use the BCI *numbers* in the specification in keeping with the w3c
> > > patent policy at https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy
> > >
> > > We would need the licence to be in a stable url to be able to use it in
> > > our specification.
> > >
> > > All the best
> > >
> > > Lisa Seeman
> > >
> > > LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter
> > > <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 19:19:32 +0300 *Russell
> > > <russell@blissymbolics.org <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org>>* wrote
> > > ----
> > >
> > >     Hi Lisa,
> > >
> > >     Well, that is a question that has never been asked before! My
> > >     initial reaction would be "no" but let me run it by the board just
> > >     in case.
> > >
> > >     Russell
> > >
> > >     On 2019-08-20 7:03 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >         Hi Russell
> > >
> > >         Thanks for getting back to us so quickly.
> > >
> > >         We are just talking about using the BCI reference number. Not
> > >         the actual symbols.
> > >         We need people to be able to use the specification for profit
> > >         applications without paying royalties.
> > >
> > >         Are the BCI numbers subject to copywrite and if so can people
> > >         make a "for profit" product that uses them (such as a web
> > >         page) royalty free?
> > >
> > >         All the best
> > >
> > >         Lisa Seeman
> > >
> > >         LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter
> > >         <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         ---- On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:42:27 +0300 *Russell
> > >         <russell@blissymbolics.org>
> > >         <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org>* wrote ----
> > >
> > >             Hi Lisa,
> > >
> > >             The licensing information can be found at:
> > >
> > >             http://blissymbolics.org/index.php/licensing
> > >
> > >             If you have any further questions about it, I am currently
> > >             the person to talk to. Attribution would be the only
> > >             requirement, I think.
> > >
> > >             For ISO codes, there is an older ISO 8859 encoding but it
> > >             is no longer used or kept up to date. A proposal for a
> > >             Unicode encoding is in a very advanced stage and hopefully
> > >             that will become formalized very soon. There are some
> > >             technical issues with how indicators are overlaid on
> > >             symbols that is holding things up a bit but I am
> > >             optimistic that this obstacle will be overcome very soon.
> > >             However, the new Unicode encoding will consist of
> > >             Bliss-characters - ie the building blocks of the language
> > >             - and thus not contain every Bliss-word but only those
> > >             words that are also Bliss-characters. So for a numbering
> > >             system that refers to all Bliss-words, the BCI-AV numbers
> > >             are the ones to use. It is by far the most widely used
> > >             indexing. As far as other possible ISO standards such as
> > >             7001 or 7010 but for complete pictographic/ideographic
> > >             languages, I'm not even aware of a standard let alone
> > >             Bliss being part of it.
> > >
> > >             Russell
> > >
> > >
> > >             On 2019-08-19 11:06 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >                 Hi Russell!
> > >
> > >                 We are currently hoping to use BCI numbers as
> > >                 references options in our specification. See
> > >                 #symbol-explanation
> > >                 <
> https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/#symbol-explanation
> >
> > >                 Is there any copy-write involved? What licence would
> > >                 that be under and is there a web link to it?
> > >
> > >                 Also do you know if any symbol sets have ISO codes?
> > >
> > >                 All the best
> > >
> > >                 Lisa Seeman
> > >
> > >                 LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>,
> > >                 Twitter <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka
>
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:       http://a11y.org
>
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures        http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>
>
>

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