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Re: ISSUE-102 (AnnotationProperty): RAISED - No Discussion

From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:32:15 -0400
Message-Id: <BB2CEEAD-DDC0-40D0-BDA0-39FA7A49B083@gmail.com>
To: OWL Working Group WG <public-owl-wg@w3.org>

Grumble.
-Alan

On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:07 AM, OWL Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:

>
>
> ISSUE-102 (AnnotationProperty): URI cannot be declared to be an  
> annotation property, which in turn means that annotation URIs can't  
> have annotations on them
>
> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/
>
> Raised by: Alan Ruttenberg
> On product:
>
> 	From: 	  matthew.horridge@cs.man.ac.uk
> 	Subject: 	Re: NCBO BioPortal Prototype Released
> 	Date: 	March 7, 2008 4:39:39 AM EST
> 	To: 	  alanruttenberg@gmail.com
> 	Cc: 	  wbug@ncmir.ucsd.edu, noy@stanford.edu,  
> maryann@ncmir.ucsd.edu, jgrethe@ncmir.ucsd.edu,  
> ian.horrocks@comlab.ox.ac.uk
>
> Hi,
>
> I think a new issue has to be raised with the OWL 1.1 Working  
> Group.  The issue pointed to by Alan doesn't represent the problem  
> that we have here. I believe that the main problem stems from the  
> fact that there are no longer annotation properties in OWL 1.1.   
> This means that a URI cannot be declared to be an annotation  
> property, which in turn means that annotation URIs can't have  
> annotations on them.
>
> I think the following needs to be done,
>
> 1)  Add a new type of axiom for declaring annotation properties
>
> 2)  Add a new type of axiom for annotating annotation properties
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> On 7 Mar 2008, at 06:36, Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
>
> This appears to be http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/16
> I've added a pointer to the thread to the issue.
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
> On Mar 6, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Bill Bug wrote:
>
> Oops.  My mistake.  Thanks, Natasha.
>
> Sorry for misquoting you, Alan.
>
> Cheers,
> Bill
>
> On Mar 6, 2008, at 3:23 PM, Natasha Noy wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Here is the current thread (started yesterday) on the OWL API  
> mailing list, in case you want to point Alan to it. Basically,  
> Matthew confirmed that the problem is with the current OWL 11 spec  
> (not the OWL API, actually).
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php? 
> thread_name=1204757310.7801.36.camel%40smi-tredmond- 
> li.stanford.edu&forum_name=owlapi-developer
>
> Natasha
>
>
> On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Bill Bug wrote:
>
> Many thanks, Natasha.
>
> Yes - my understanding is this is an OWL API bug.  I've spoken with  
> Alan Ruttenberg about this some time back.  Alan is co-chair with  
> Ian H. on the OWL 1.1 spec committee.  Alan is also recommending  
> one tread with great care, if one thinks of using P4, but must  
> maintain compatibility with P3. He himself uses CLISP for most all  
> his OWL work, so the problem is completely moot for him.
>
> This along with other issues is why I've been avoiding P4 for now,  
> as much as I must bite my lip in anticipation each time I spend a  
> little time playing with it.  ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Bill
>
> On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Natasha Noy wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Tim and Tania have spent a bit of time today looking into this  
> problem, and think they might know where the problem is coming  
> from. Unfortunately, they think it might the OWL 11 API problem,  
> which is out of our hands. We'll know more tomorrow when Manchester  
> has time to look at it. Also, Tim says that the way things are now,  
> you indeed should stay away from Protege 4: it will loose  
> information if you load your files there and then save. Basically,  
> it doesn't handle the case where annotation properties are declared  
> in one ontology and used in another very well (ok, that's an  
> understatement -- not at all).
>
> We have posted the bug, and are hoping to hear from our Manchester  
> friends tomorrow.
>
> In the meantime, yes, send us what you have, and we'll try to get  
> it into the BioPortal. Indeed, we need to come up with a good way  
> to update BirnLex. For now though, it will probably have to be a  
> push from your side. But once we have all the scripts to convert it  
> into the form that BioPortal can digest, that should be doable, right?
>
> Best,
>
> Natasha
>
>
> On Mar 5, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Bill Bug wrote:
>
> Many thanks to you, Natasha.
>
> I should have remember about this AnnotationProperty issue with  
> P4.  I was just so excited to think we'd found a very easy and  
> quick fix, my past experience with P4 didn't pop to mind.  This is  
> one of the reasons I've avoided using P4, actually.  It's got so  
> many useful conveniences for us OWL users, I know the more I use  
> it, the more I'll become prey to the current bugs that have still  
> to be worked out.
>
> I needed to divert to a few writing tasks in the last day, but I  
> should finish with the last outstanding item - a 3/4 finished  
> manuscript review - this evening, so that I'll be able to get back  
> to the Jena code to generate that file.  The only outstanding issue  
> was to complete the "dumping" of the subsumptive graph, which I'd  
> already begun to do.  What I'll then deliver is a 2D ASCII file  
> with classes & instances as rows, and all the properties we'd want  
> for this first pass into the Bioportal as columns, including an ID  
> pointer to the parent class to capture the asserted graph. Each  
> column with have the name of the actual AnnotationProperty as a  
> header, except for the parent which will have the header "SuperClass".
>
> Nothing fancy, just the basics.
>
> Thank you again for jumping on this, as its extremely important to  
> us - both for the BIRN and for the NIF projects.  One of the issues  
> I'm most interested in is working out an update policy, so the  
> BioPortal has the most current version of our OWL content, which  
> will be turning over relatively rapidly.  As I mentioned, we've got  
> an MD5 digest in place that makes it clear when some aspect of the  
> file has changed.  This is run every evening at 3 AM PDT and only  
> updated if there's been a change.
>
> I should be able to get that to you by Friday at the latest with  
> the other things in my queue.
>
> Cheers,
> Bill
>
> On Mar 5, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Natasha Noy wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> I see - I wasn't aware of this discrepancy. I'll try to  
> investigate. But then in the meantime, if you can give us an OWL  
> file with everything merged, we will try to load it into BioPortal.  
> Having such a file will certainly speed things up for us!
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!
>
> Natasha
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 4:44 PM, Bill Bug wrote:
>
> Dear Natasha,
>
> Below are screen shots that help explain the problem here.  As I  
> mentioned earlier, there are some known problems with P4 - one  
> being the way it handles AnnotationProperties.  You will note that  
> the two example classes given here - "Cerebral cortex" and "Bipolar  
> disease" - have considerably more AnnotationProperties when viewed  
> in P3 than when viewed in P4.  The bulk of the properties just  
> don't get parsed in P4 for some reason.  I saw this a while back,  
> and I and others have reported it.  Don't know when they'll get  
> around to fixing it.
>
> I've included the OWL/RDF/XML for these classes so you can see  
> there is nothing non-standard about the way in which the  
> AnnotationProperties are declared for these classes.
>
> So - though the merge ontology feature in P4 is very very handy, it  
> just won't help us right now.
>
> I can still provide that CSV dump of BIRNLex, if you think that  
> might provide an expeditious way to get BIRNLex into BioPortal as  
> one big ontology file.
>
> Cheers,
> Bill
>
> <Picture 21.png>
> <Picture 18.png>
> <Picture 19.png>
> <Picture 20.png>
>
> BIPOLAR DISORDER:
>   <owl:Class rdf:about="#birnlex_12754">
>     <obo_annot:synonym>Manic-Depressive Psychosis</obo_annot:synonym>
>     <rdfs:label>Bipolar Disorder</rdfs:label>
>     <birn_annot:hasBirnlexCurator>http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ 
> ontology/annotation/BIRNLex_annotation_properties.owl#BillBug</ 
> birn_annot:hasBirnlexCurator>
>     <obo_annot:hasExternalSource>http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ 
> ontology/annotation/OBO_annotation_properties.owl#MeSH</ 
> obo_annot:hasExternalSource>
>     <core:prefLabel>Bipolar Disorder</core:prefLabel>
>     <obo_annot:createdDate>2007-10-08</obo_annot:createdDate>
>     <obo_annot:synonym>Affective Bipolar Psychosis</obo_annot:synonym>
>     <obo_annot:usageNote>MeSH includes implied subcomponents</ 
> obo_annot:usageNote>
>     <obo_annot:nifID>_8.3_11.3</obo_annot:nifID>
>     <birn_annot:putativeClassExtension>Manic Disorder</ 
> birn_annot:putativeClassExtension>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf rdf:resource="#birnlex_12753"/>
>     <obo_annot:synonym>Bipolar Depression</obo_annot:synonym>
>     <birn_annot:hasCurationStatus>http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ 
> ontology/annotation/BIRNLex_annotation_properties.owl#uncurated</ 
> birn_annot:hasCurationStatus>
>     <core:definition>A major affective disorder marked by severe  
> mood swings (manic or major depressive episodes) and a tendency to  
> remission and recurrence (MeSH).</core:definition>
>     <obo_annot:modifiedDate>2007-10-08</obo_annot:modifiedDate>
>     <obo_annot:hasDefinitionSource>http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ 
> ontology/annotation/OBO_annotation_properties.owl#MeSH_defSource</ 
> obo_annot:hasDefinitionSource>
>     <birn_annot:putativeClassExtension>Mania</ 
> birn_annot:putativeClassExtension>
>     <birn_annot:putativeClassExtension>Manic State</ 
> birn_annot:putativeClassExtension>
>     <obo_annot:externalSourceId>D001714</obo_annot:externalSourceId>
>   </owl:Class>
>
> CEREBRAL CORTEX:
>   <owl:Class rdf:about="#birnlex_1494">
>     <birn_annot:hasBirnlexCurator>http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ 
> ontology/annotation/BIRNLex_annotation_properties.owl#Bill_Bug</ 
> birn_annot:hasBirnlexCurator>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom>
>           <owl:Class rdf:ID="birnlex_1616"/>
>         </owl:someValuesFrom>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <obo_annot:UmlsCui>C0007776</obo_annot:UmlsCui>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom>
>           <owl:Class rdf:ID="birnlex_1072"/>
>         </owl:someValuesFrom>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom>
>           <owl:Class rdf:about="#birnlex_1128"/>
>         </owl:someValuesFrom>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <birn_annot:hasCurationStatus>http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ 
> ontology/annotation/ 
> BIRNLex_annotation_properties.owl#pending_final_vetting</ 
> birn_annot:hasCurationStatus>
>     <obo_annot:pendingActionNote>Find out what areas are included  
> in cerebral cortex from Allan (2006-07-15).</ 
> obo_annot:pendingActionNote>
>     <rdfs:label>Cerebral cortex</rdfs:label>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1079"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom>
>           <owl:Class rdf:ID="birnlex_1475"/>
>         </owl:someValuesFrom>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Class rdf:about="#birnlex_1700"/>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <obo_annot:externallySourcedDefinition>The thin layer of gray  
> matter on the surface of the cerebral hemisphere that develops from  
> the telencephalon and folds into gyri. It reaches its highest  
> development in man and is responsible for intellectual faculties  
> and higher mental functions (MeSH &amp; CSP both).</ 
> obo_annot:externallySourcedDefinition>
>     <birn_annot:hasBirnlexCurator>http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ 
> ontology/annotation/ 
> BIRNLex_annotation_properties.owl#Allan_MacKenzie-Graham</ 
> birn_annot:hasBirnlexCurator>
>     <obo_annot:createdDate>2006-07-15</obo_annot:createdDate>
>     <birn_annot:neuronamesID>20</birn_annot:neuronamesID>
>     <obo_annot:hasExternalSource>http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ 
> ontology/annotation/OBO_annotation_properties.owl#MeSH</ 
> obo_annot:hasExternalSource>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1136"/>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:allValuesFrom>
>           <owl:Class>
>             <owl:unionOf rdf:parseType="Collection">
>               <owl:Class rdf:about="#birnlex_922"/>
>               <owl:Class rdf:about="#birnlex_1063"/>
>             </owl:unionOf>
>           </owl:Class>
>         </owl:allValuesFrom>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1422"/>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1468"/>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <obo_annot:modifiedDate>2006-10-05</obo_annot:modifiedDate>
>     <obo_annot:nifID>_5.1_1.11.1.1</obo_annot:nifID>
>     <birn_annot:birnlexDefinition>The thin layer of gray matter on  
> the surface of the cerebral hemisphere that develops from the  
> telencephalon and folds into gyri (adapted from MSH by Christine  
> Fennema-Notestine).</birn_annot:birnlexDefinition>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom>
>           <owl:Class rdf:ID="birnlex_1480"/>
>         </owl:someValuesFrom>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1117"/>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1148"/>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1428"/>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1368"/>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1160"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <birn_annot:hasBirnlexCurator>http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ 
> ontology/annotation/ 
> BIRNLex_annotation_properties.owl#Christine_Fennema-Notestine</ 
> birn_annot:hasBirnlexCurator>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1487"/>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <core:changeNote>made a region of the telencephalon based on NN  
> (BB).</core:changeNote>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1086"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <core:prefLabel>Cerebral cortex</core:prefLabel>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom>
>           <owl:Class rdf:about="#birnlex_928"/>
>         </owl:someValuesFrom>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom rdf:resource="#birnlex_1436"/>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>     <rdfs:subClassOf>
>       <owl:Restriction>
>         <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="http://www.obofoundry.org/ro/ 
> ro.owl#has_proper_part"/>
>         <owl:someValuesFrom>
>           <owl:Class rdf:ID="birnlex_1493"/>
>         </owl:someValuesFrom>
>       </owl:Restriction>
>     </rdfs:subClassOf>
>   </owl:Class>
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Natasha Noy wrote:
>
> Can you give me some examples of the properties that are not there,  
> so that I can look them up and at least try to figure out at which  
> stage the problem occurs?
>
> For the moment, you can search through *all* properties.  
> Eventually, we plan to have the ontology authors specify the  
> *important* properties, such as where their synonyms are stored. It  
> is high on the priority list. The issue is not so much the query  
> itself, but the fact that different ontologies use diffirent  
> properties for, say, synonyms. We want to enable ontology authors  
> to tell us what those are at submission time.
>
> Natasha
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Bill Bug wrote:
>
> Hi Natasha,
>
> We still seem to be missing almost all the annotation properties -  
> the most important ones like definition, prefLabel, synonyms
>
> For some reasons, SOME of the properties defined in:
>
> 	xmlns:obo_annot="http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ontology/annotation/ 
> BIRNLex_annotation_properties.owl#"
>
> are getting through, but not all. Even for  
> BIRNLex_annotation_properties.owl, only a few AnnotationProperties  
> get through and even then, only intermittently.
>
> Another important issue here - for us at least - is we want to make  
> certain that users of the BioPortal will be able to search our  
> ontology not only based on rdfs:label, but also on a small set of  
> other AnnotationProps that we define (for us, that would primarily  
> be skos:prefLabel and obo_annot:synonym).  That's definitely  
> functionality we'd ultimately need from the BioPortal.  Given it  
> would be trivial to implement in Jena, I assume its not a big problem.
>
> Thanks again for being so responsive and acting so expeditiously.
>
> Cheers,
> Bill
>
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Natasha Noy wrote:
>
> [I am putting others on the thread in Bcc, so that this is the last  
> message on the thread that you receive unless you ask us to keep  
> you on the thread]
>
> ok, here you go -- both BIRNLex and NIF. Can you check to see if  
> everything seems to be there. If there are problems, let us know  
> where they are.
>
> Natasha
>
> <nif.owl.zip><BIRNLex.owl.zip>
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Bill Bug wrote:
>
> So the best place to go for the latest, greatest is always the URL
>
> 	BIRNLex:
> 		http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ontology/birnlex.owl
>
> 	NIF:
> 		http://purl.org/nif/ontology/nif.owl
>
> Those are the "root" files in the import graph, so if you start  
> with these, you automagically get everything.
>
> Each of these locations includes an MD5 digest specifying the  
> latest digest for the overall ontology:
>
> 	http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ontology/birnlex-plus.md5
>
> 	http://purl.org/nif/ontology/nif-plus.md5
>
> There's also an MD5 log to specifically indicate WHEN changes have  
> taken place:
>
> 	http://purl.org/nbirn/birnlex/ontology/birnlex-plus.md5.log
>
> 	http://purl.org/nif/ontology/nif-plus.md5.log
>
> (You'll note there's been a lot of updating in the last few days)
>
> These were specifically put in place so that processes which needed  
> to keep current with the latest version of BIRNLex (or NIF) could  
> have a "hook" to make it easy to know when an automatic update  
> should be run.  This provides a very light weight check to help  
> consumers - like the BioPortal - avoid re-running a "heavy" process  
> when its not necessary.
>
> Cheers,
> Bill
> 	
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Natasha Noy wrote:
>
> Sorry -- pushed the "send" button before replying to the whole thing.
>
> I would also say this same mechanism should work for NIF as well.
>
> Absolutely -- send us the files and we'll take care of it.
>
> The one thing I would want to make clear to BioPortal users looking  
> for ontologies to re-use is that BIRNLex expressly is designed for  
> modular use.  We have extensive modules for organism taxonomy (a  
> concordance of NCBI Tax + GBIF for organisms of interest to  
> neuroscientists - and coverage sufficient for many other domains),  
> Neuroanatomy, nerve cell types, neuro disease, OBI-related  
> investigation, etc. - most of which are specifically designed to be  
> used in isolation from one another, to help promote re-use.  If  
> there were some way to indicate this and then point back to our  
> BIRNLex Wiki pages for details, that would be great.
>
> We will preserve the different prefixes; that's not perfect, but  
> could give some indication of where the module boundaries are.  
> Also, yes, we can point to the BIRNLex homepage in the ontology  
> metadata, where all the other information about the ontology is.
>
> Natasha
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> William Bug, M.S., M.Phil.                                          
> 			email: wbug@ncmir.ucsd.edu
> Ontological Engineer									work: (610) 457-0443
> Biomedical Informatics Research Network (BIRN)
> and
> National Center for Microscopy &
> Imaging Research (NCMIR)
> Dept. of Neuroscience, School of Medicine
> University of California, San Diego
> 9500 Gilman Drive
> La Jolla, CA 92093
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> William Bug, M.S., M.Phil.                                          
> 			email: wbug@ncmir.ucsd.edu
> Ontological Engineer									work: (610) 457-0443
> Biomedical Informatics Research Network (BIRN)
> and
> National Center for Microscopy &
> Imaging Research (NCMIR)
> Dept. of Neuroscience, School of Medicine
> University of California, San Diego
> 9500 Gilman Drive
> La Jolla, CA 92093
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> Please note my email has recently changed
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> William Bug, M.S., M.Phil.                                          
> 			email: wbug@ncmir.ucsd.edu
> Ontological Engineer									work: (610) 457-0443
> Biomedical Informatics Research Network (BIRN)
> and
> National Center for Microscopy &
> Imaging Research (NCMIR)
> Dept. of Neuroscience, School of Medicine
> University of California, San Diego
> 9500 Gilman Drive
> La Jolla, CA 92093
>
> Please note my email has recently changed
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> William Bug, M.S., M.Phil.                                          
> 			email: wbug@ncmir.ucsd.edu
> Ontological Engineer									work: (610) 457-0443
> Biomedical Informatics Research Network (BIRN)
> and
> National Center for Microscopy &
> Imaging Research (NCMIR)
> Dept. of Neuroscience, School of Medicine
> University of California, San Diego
> 9500 Gilman Drive
> La Jolla, CA 92093
>
> Please note my email has recently changed
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> William Bug, M.S., M.Phil.                                          
> 			email: wbug@ncmir.ucsd.edu
> Ontological Engineer									work: (610) 457-0443
> Biomedical Informatics Research Network (BIRN)
> and
> National Center for Microscopy &
> Imaging Research (NCMIR)
> Dept. of Neuroscience, School of Medicine
> University of California, San Diego
> 9500 Gilman Drive
> La Jolla, CA 92093
>
> Please note my email has recently changed
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> William Bug, M.S., M.Phil.                                          
> 			email: wbug@ncmir.ucsd.edu
> Ontological Engineer									work: (610) 457-0443
> Biomedical Informatics Research Network (BIRN)
> and
> National Center for Microscopy &
> Imaging Research (NCMIR)
> Dept. of Neuroscience, School of Medicine
> University of California, San Diego
> 9500 Gilman Drive
> La Jolla, CA 92093
>
> Please note my email has recently changed
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