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Re: Agenda for Teleconference.2008.08.13

From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:45:39 -0400
Cc: public-owl-wg@w3.org
Message-Id: <491B71F6-3857-45C6-93F4-4972D141BD6F@gmail.com>
To: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>

Hi Peter,

Here is an email from Alan Rector at the end of 2006 while the OWL 1.1  
submission was being written. Note the point about priority requests.  
These are still not addressed. Having SKOS be representable in OWL 2  
DL is also a goal that has been put forth.

-Alan

> Peter, All
>
> Excuse the silence.  Pressure in the run-up to Christmas.
> Many thanks to all, especially Peter for an enormous amount of work.
>
> Points of clarification:
>
> * How to "comments" as described below relate to rdf:Comment?
>
> * Do these changes allow us to put domain and range constraints and  
> hierarchy on annotation properties.  Those are three of our priority  
> requests.  t isn't clear to me that they do.  I don't want this to  
> get lost in the debate on comments.
>
> Thanks
>
> Alan
>


On Aug 12, 2008, at 3:23 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:

> The original Rich Annotations proposal
> 	http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Annotation_System
> states that it is motivated by
> ISSUE-12: Annotations of multi-triple axioms
> ISSUE-16: Entity annotations status
> ISSUE-20: Annotate declarations
> ISSUE-32: Complex annotations
> ISSUE-40: Extra-logical features
> and the issues in
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2007Oct/0398.html
> which are
> 1) Development tool metadata
> 2) Deployment tool metadata
> 3) Must understand language extensions
> 4) May ignore language extensions
>
> Certainly the proposal does not address the second last of these nine,
> but the others are at least arguably addressed.
>
> peter
>
>
> From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Agenda for Teleconference.2008.08.13
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:42:23 -0400
>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> This doesn't meet the requirements that motivated the original rich
>> annotation proposal, such as allowing domain and range restrictions  
>> on
>> annotations, or subProperty relationships between them.
>>
>> -Alan
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
>>
>>> The status is
>>>
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2008Aug/0060.html
>>>
>>> My view is that that is all that is required in the OWL 2  
>>> specification.
>>>
>>> peter
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Agenda for Teleconference.2008.08.13
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:15:56 -0400
>>>
>>>> On Aug 12, 2008, at 2:09 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Agenda for Teleconference.2008.08.13
>>>>> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:43:40 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>>> General Discussion (40 minutes)
>>>>>>   Annotations: Plan B.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is Plan B?
>>>>
>>>> That is the question. I would like to confer on the status of  
>>>> your and
>>>> Bijan's work on the annotation proposal, and make plans in the  
>>>> case that
>>>> it is not ready, as we discussed at the F2F. I anticipate would  
>>>> discuss
>>>> idea for annotations that fall short of the rich annotation  
>>>> proposal but
>>>> address some of the requirements our users have articulated. We had
>>>> postponed that pending seeing what the resolution of rich  
>>>> annotations
>>>> was.
>>>>
>>>> -Alan
>>>>
>>>>> If we are going to discuss Annotations yet again, I think that
>>>> pointers
>>>>> to the proposals up for discussion are needed, and that  
>>>>> proposals that
>>>>> have already been discussed should have evolved to be considered  
>>>>> for
>>>>> re-discussion.  The only activity I see in the WG related to
>>>> annotations
>>>>> is my message from Monday
>>>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2008Aug/ 
>>>>> 0060.html
>>>>> which contains a proposal to close ISSUE-16 by adding  
>>>>> annotations on
>>>>> annotations.
>>>>>
>>>>> peter
>>>>
>>
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