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Re: postponed issues

From: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:19:17 -0400
Message-Id: <EB124FF0-9534-4CA9-AE33-A58F0B39C149@cs.rpi.edu>
Cc: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>, public-owl-wg@w3.org
To: Ian Horrocks <ian.horrocks@comlab.ox.ac.uk>

thanks Ian.
  Peter, fwiw, I think you're mostly right on those and that  
basically we meet the charter requirement by moving these things to  
issues, resolving the easy ones, and leaving the postponed ones as  
postponed to the next group - however, occasionally we find some of  
these "research" ones get resolved, so we should at least visit them  
briefly and "dot that i" from our charter.
   Reopening closed but not really resolved issues is also a good  
idea, but I'd say those most easily go through our regular issues  
mechanism (whatever it may be)
  -JH


On Oct 23, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Ian Horrocks wrote:

>
> I agree that this wasn't very clear. I have added a "WebOnt  
> postponed issues" item to the agenda.
>
> Ian
>
>
> On 23 Oct 2007, at 16:54, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
>
>> I thought that this was for re-opening closed-but-not-really-resolved
>> issues.  I didn't think that this held for truely postposed issues  
>> (all
>> 10 of them) .
>>
>> peter
>>
>> PS:  For those of you who might want a quick run-down of the big 10,
>> here they are, along with my prognostication of their eventual  
>> status:
>>
>> 3.2 Qualified Cardinality Restrictions		in OWL 1.1
>> 4.3 Structured Datatypes  			for new RDF WG
>> 4.4 Extra Logical Feature Set			in OWL 1.1
>> 4.8 Trust and Ontology	  			too hard - research needed
>> 5.4 OWL Quote 					insufficient rigour
>> 5.7 Range restrictions 				in OWL 1.1
>> 5.12 Entailing inconsistencies			much too hard - research needed
>> 5.25 Justifications				out of scope
>> 6.1 Unnamed Individual Restrictions		???
>> 6.2 Compound Keys      				too hard - research needed
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Ian Horrocks <ian.horrocks@comlab.ox.ac.uk>
>> Subject: Re: postponed issues (was Re: Agenda for teleconference  
>> Wednesday October 24, 2007)
>> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:23:20 +0100
>>
>>>
>>> We discussed this in the first teleconf [1] and agreed that, rather
>>> than migrating these (probably mostly irrelevant) issues, WG members
>>> who want to champion an issue from the WebOnt list should simply
>>> raise an appropriate new issue.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.10/ 
>>> Minutes
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 Oct 2007, at 16:02, Jim Hendler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ian - since I cannot be on the phone:  for the agendum
>>>>
>>>> Issues list
>>>>     * Tracker status
>>>>     * Migration of OWL 1.1 issues list to tracker
>>>>     * Proposing new issues
>>>>
>>>> I'd note that the charter specifies the list of postponed issues
>>>> from the Web Ont WG (OWL 1.0 group) as inputs to this group.  Can
>>>> we simply have these migrate to the issues list?  I'd note that
>>>> many of them are either dealt with in OWL 1.1 or beyond the scope
>>>> of the group, so we could probably dispatch most of them very  
>>>> quickly.
>>>>    thanks
>>>>    JH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Ian Horrocks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Master copy is at  http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.
>>>>> 2007.10.24/Agenda
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently version is below.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Call in details
>>>>>
>>>>>     * Date of Call: Wednesday October 24, 2007
>>>>>     * Time of Call: 1700 UTC, 10:00AM (West US), 1:00PM (East US),
>>>>> 1800 (London), 1900 (Paris)
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>>>>>     * Web-based IRC (member-only): http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-
>>>>> irc (Firefox IRC addon: chatzilla)
>>>>>     * Duration: 90 minutes
>>>>>     * Chair: Alan Ruttenberg, Ian Horrocks
>>>>>     * Scribe: (Scribe List)
>>>>>     * Link to Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/
>>>>> Teleconference.2007.10.24/Agenda
>>>>>
>>>>> Agenda
>>>>>
>>>>>     * ADMIN (10 min)
>>>>>           o Roll call
>>>>>           o Agenda amendments
>>>>>           o PROPOSED: Accept Previous Minutes
>>>>>           o Action items status
>>>>>                 + Action 01: Still in progress.
>>>>>           o PROPOSED: Edits to the Front Page should be vetted by
>>>>> WG chairs
>>>>>     * Publications (30 min)
>>>>>           o PROPOSED: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-
>>>>> owl-wg/2007Oct/0170.html
>>>>>           o PROPOSED: Documents to be edited using wiki markup
>>>>> facilities (templates, tex math, etc). Revisit if there are  
>>>>> problems.
>>>>>           o Issues list
>>>>>                 + Tracker status
>>>>>                 + Migration of OWL 1.1 issues list to tracker
>>>>>                 + Proposing new issues
>>>>>     * Task forces (10 min)
>>>>>           o Backward compatibility audit
>>>>>           o Test cases
>>>>>     * Relationships to other W3C groups (overview) (5 min, may
>>>>> postpone if time short)
>>>>>           o Semantic Web Coordination Group
>>>>>           o Rule Interchange Format (RIF) Working Group
>>>>>           o Semantic Web Deployment Working Group
>>>>>           o Semantic Web Education and Outreach Interest Group
>>>>>           o Semantic Web Health Care and Life Sciences Interest  
>>>>> Group
>>>>>           o XML Schema Working Group
>>>>>           o Technical Architecture Group
>>>>>           o Uncertainty Reasoning for the Web Incubator Group
>>>>>     * Relationships to other non-W3C groups (overview) (5 min, may
>>>>> postpone if time short)
>>>>>           o OMG
>>>>>     * Additional other business (5 min)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regrets
>>>>>
>>>>>     * James Hendler (through December)
>>>>>     * Ivan Herman (10.17 and 10.24)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research,
>>>> would it?." - Albert Einstein
>>>>
>>>> Prof James Hendler				http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~hendler
>>>> Tetherless World Constellation Chair
>>>> Computer Science Dept
>>>> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY 12180
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

"If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would  
it?." - Albert Einstein

Prof James Hendler				http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~hendler
Tetherless World Constellation Chair
Computer Science Dept
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY 12180
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