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Re: proposal - Fragments redux (unifying the threads under Issues 75-80)

From: Ian Horrocks <ian.horrocks@comlab.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:28:53 +0000
Message-Id: <D18933F4-78E9-4BD7-803C-224887CAE4CA@comlab.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: Carsten Lutz <clu@tcs.inf.tu-dresden.de>, Bernardo Cuenca Grau <bcg@cs.man.ac.uk>, OWL Working Group WG <public-owl-wg@w3.org>
To: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.rpi.edu>

On 29 Nov 2007, at 17:06, Jim Hendler wrote:

> On Nov 29, 2007, at 2:44, Carsten Lutz <clu@tcs.inf.tu-dresden.de>  
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Jim Hendler wrote:
>>> well, it's not so much motivated by computational properties, see  
>>> out in the real world there's people who just implement fast  
>>> engines and don't worry so much about the details...
>> Sorry to object, but IHMO this approach is precisely why the original
>> OWL Lite was broken. And I understood we wanted to fix this?! We  
>> should
>> at least understand the computational properties of the fragments we
>> are selecting.
> IMO, its because we worried too much about theory that lite is broken

I can't let this go by without a correction. OWL Lite is broken  
because it was designed without *any* consideration of theory -- the  
design "methodology" was to haggle over what features to throw out  
and what to leave in, without any (rigorous) analysis of the  
(computational) consequences. There was even a last minute push to  
have oneOf be included on the grounds that it is a "must have"  
feature for many users; this was only given up when it was pointed  
out that the resulting language would have exactly the same worst  
case complexity as OWL DL.

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