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Re: [Poplus] Popolo and JSON-LD

From: Paul Mackay <pauljmackay@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:42:30 +0100
Message-ID: <CALe0mCzYq3xLCjLOG3eVtufUrH6kTkep8ndugT=AD-JsAJfS2A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Martín Szyszlican <martinsz@gmail.com>
Cc: Andreas Kuckartz <a.kuckartz@ping.de>, James McKinney <james@opennorth.ca>, poplus <poplus@googlegroups.com>, public-opengov@w3.org
James, just responding on a couple of your earlier points:

> (1) that plain JSON allows using project-specific identifiers in the *_id
fields, whereas JSON-LD shouldn’t use any *_id fields

Isnt it possible to have both? A JSON-LD object could have "id" and "@id"
if necessary.

> Allowing the use of internal identifiers without having to produce a URL
for those identifiers has been a clear use case, hence the *_id fields.

Could you please expand a bit on these use cases specifically?

I'm currently doing some civic API work and Popolo has been a big
inspiration. I'm also keen to encourage linked data where it makes sense.
So this is a useful conversation.

Paul

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Martín Szyszlican <martinsz@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi, this conversation was interesting. Did you guys reach an agreement on
> how to add json-ld to popolo?
>
> I have no use case for it, but I like standardy standards.
>
> 2015-04-14 5:38 GMT+00:00 Andreas Kuckartz <a.kuckartz@ping.de>:
>
>> Am 13.04.2015 17:28, schrieb James McKinney:
>> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 1:19 AM, Andreas Kuckartz
>> >> <A.Kuckartz@ping.de> wrote: I would like to analyse the data,
>> >> convert it to RDF and do something with that heap of Linked Data
>> >> (and in combination with other Linked Data). Currently I can do
>> >> none of these.
>> >
>> > More common use cases are, “I want a list of all Canadian MPs” or
>> > “I want an API for all votes in the House of Commons.”
>>
>> These are perfect examples of "do something with that heap of Linked
>> Data" ;-)
>>
>> > I think you’ll need to do some research yourself, which if you
>> > share with the community, others might contribute to.
>>
>> The is now a Wiki page on which I am collecting such information
>> (starting with the info you provided):
>> https://github.com/OpenGovLD/specs/wiki/List-of-data-providers
>>
>> > The only way to avoid out-of-band contexts is to eliminate the
>> > plain JSON serialization, which I think will be an unpopular
>> > choice.
>>
>> That can easily be misunderstood: The addition of support for media
>> type "application/ld+json" does *not* require the removal of support
>> for "application/json".
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andreas
>>
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